http://www.llm-guide.com/board/11326 en The point of view of US students on LLM - LLM GUIDE Discussion Board Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:22:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/11326/last#11326 If you like to read some more stupid and jealous crap, then here is an extract of a course evaluation report written by some JD that took a course I was also in: This course was loaded with LLMs of the worst sort. They had comments for everything, and it was clear that they were all studying in a group or using the same hornbook because it was common for several in a row to ask the same question or make the same "penetrating" observation. At least LLMs have a brain. If there is something that asks for a comment, LLMs speak up and say what's on their mind. Also, there was no group studying going on, and the average LLM does not use a hornbook. Actually, the reason why LLMs make penetrating observations more often is because they are not busy using IM or writing emails or checking their stock positions during class. They pay attention! This often made the class drag, and it was hard not to tune them out because what interested them frankly was not all that interesting to me. The class was actually never allowed to drag, because the Professor did not allow any questions that were not related to the course. Whenever such a question came up, the Professor would tell the person (whether JD or LLM) to see him after class. Maybe JDs are too sleepy in class to hear this? That really took away from the class. Indeed, it was a so-so class because of them, and I think it would have been excellent if it had been JDs only. This is where the cultural barriers get too high for the average JD. Maybe they should be forced to spend one year outside of their country, they would realize that they do not possess the universal intelligence. Perhaps it would be best to have an LLMs-only corporations class to save the rest of us from feeling like we're stuck in the U.N. without a translator. I will not say what I think about this racist comment. In order to directly reply to your question of what JDs think about LLMs, here a few comments: 1° Interaction between JDs and LLMs is often limited, as both groups do not feel the need to interact. This does not help in furthering mutual understanding. 2° As soon as there is interaction, everyone will realize that he has to do with another human being, just as him/her, and that there is not really a difference. 3° Yes, LLMs tend to speak up more in class than JDs, and the JDs generally don't like that. But this is not the problem of the LLMs. They realize how much they are paying for their program, and if there is something else that they would like to know, they won't hold back. In this context, LLMs are a lot more open minded than most JDs. 4° A major problem also comes from the fact that in many Law Schools, LLMs and JDs are graded on the same curve. Now, there is a lot of discussion of who does better, but from my perspective, many LLMs actually do very very well. This is often driven by the fact taht they are seeking a job in the US, and for that they need A's or A-. Of course, every LLM who gets an A or A- is one less JD who can get that grade. Honestly, this is one of the main reasons why JDs sometimes hate LLMs. They would not admit it, but it is pure jealousy. I have many JD friends, but that is because I wanted to get to know them. Spending a year in this Law School without getting to know any of them would be a waste of time and a sign of inferior cultural interest. Well, that is my humble opinion about what is going on.. DocJ