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catcat


Joined: 07 Jan 2006
Posts: 28
College of Oxford
Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:32 AM
Dear all,

I am gonna be a MJur student this fall. I have a question and seek for your advice. Does the colledge choice decide the life in Oxford? Or, for example, my interest is in insolvency, corporate, and tax law. If I was put into a college without tutor having the same major, would it damage my process of learning?

Thank you in advance.

Best regards,
catcat

[Edited 27 Mar 2006 by catcat]

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daniel12


Joined: 12 Apr 2005
Posts: 74
College of Oxford
Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:42 AM
Dear all,

I am gonna be a MJur student this fall. I have a question and seek for your advice. Does the colledge choice decide the life in Oxford? Or, for example, my interest is in insolvency, corporate, and tax law. If I was put into a college without tutor having the same major, would it damage my process of learning?

HI catcat!

You have to separate two things. Firstly, the social life in Oxford is governed by the colleges. Secondly, as a graduate students it is quite secondary in which college you are in, if we talk about academics. The letter is a consequence of the fact that Mjur's are entitled to attend courses in other colleges, because there are only the offered Mjur courses (up to one course can be a undergraduate course, though) you can attend. And not each of the college teaches every course. Therefore, it is quite common for Mjur's to attend courses in other colleges. If you are eager to write a dissertation, it might be an advantage to know your professor from fromal halls or other events taking place in your college, though. Bear in mind that prof. don't have to supervise every dissertation!

Best and cu
Daniel
PS: I know my college already becauseI am allocated there through an exchange program. I am lucky becasue it was my first choice(St. Edmund Hall)...
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jw

Joined: 01 Feb 2006
Posts: 192
College of Oxford
Tue Mar 28, 2006 03:39 PM

Daniel12:

St. Teddy's Hall, eh? My friend stayed there last year... really enjoyed himself.

I've put down Balliol College as my first choice... however, that seems to be a popular choice... why is that?

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daniel12


Joined: 12 Apr 2005
Posts: 74
College of Oxford
Tue Mar 28, 2006 04:30 PM

Daniel12:

St. Teddy's Hall, eh? My friend stayed there last year... really enjoyed himself.

I've put down Balliol College as my first choice... however, that seems to be a popular choice... why is that?

If I understand you correctly, you ask me why St. Edmund Hall is a popular choice. Well, Im my case I just took into account that one professor who is a leading scholar in my specialization is a member of this college. I like to opt for the dissertation to combine my Mjur with some research for a doctorate degree in Germany. That's why I wanted to go there. I know I will...
But i don't know anything about a general popularity of St. Edmund Hall. From what I have heard during my time in London I can only say that Christ Church and Balliol are seen as rather "posh" colleges with lots of rich but rather dull kids. But that may mostly apply to undergraduate studies...
Best
Daniel

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studentbarista

Joined: 06 Jan 2006
Posts: 47
College of Oxford
Tue Mar 28, 2006 05:30 PM
Er...

I would agree with you that Christ Church has a certain 'rah' reputation.

But Balliol is widely known for it's large intake of state school undergraduates. It is also well known for its socialist reputation - the JCR keep a tortoise named after the communist 'Rosa Luxembourg.'

A better answer to the original question would be that many people apply for Balliol because it's perhaps the most famous college, with some of the most prestigious alumni out of any college at Oxford.
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daniel12


Joined: 12 Apr 2005
Posts: 74
College of Oxford
Tue Mar 28, 2006 05:44 PM
Er...

I would agree with you that Christ Church has a certain 'rah' reputation.

But Balliol is widely known for it's large intake of state school undergraduates. It is also well known for its socialist reputation - the JCR keep a tortoise named after the communist 'Rosa Luxembourg.'

A better answer to the original question would be that many people apply for Balliol because it's perhaps the most famous college, with some of the most prestigious alumni out of any college at Oxford.


Sorry, don't get me wrong. I have no own opinion on the reputation of colleges and generally like to make my own experience. Therefore, neither my comment on Christ Church nor Balliol are my views. I just heard that in London. Obviously one of the given information was untrue. That backs up my view to from my own opinion...
Best Daniel
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studentbarista

Joined: 06 Jan 2006
Posts: 47
College of Oxford
Tue Mar 28, 2006 09:33 PM
'I just heard that in London.'

I did suspect that information was second hand!

(I smelt a rat when you were refering to Teddy Hall as 'St. Teddy Hall.')
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jw

Joined: 01 Feb 2006
Posts: 192
College of Oxford
Tue Mar 28, 2006 09:35 PM

studentbarista:

That's right... one of the reasons selected Balliol was the number of famous alumni, as well as the fact that Joseph Raz and other prominent legal philosophers are fellows at the college.

In addition, it takes in a large number of graduate students and has a bunch of scholarships for overseas students.
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daniel12


Joined: 12 Apr 2005
Posts: 74
College of Oxford
Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:02 AM
Studentbarista

(I smelt a rat when you were refering to Teddy Hall as 'St. Teddy Hall.')

If I were you, I would look closely to the post before I would make such statements. Then you would see that I was not refering to "St. Teddy Hall". That was mentioned in the first post of jw.
Never mind!
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jw

Joined: 01 Feb 2006
Posts: 192
College of Oxford
Wed Mar 29, 2006 08:32 PM

Chillax, dudes.

Obviously, I could be wrong about the "St .Teddy's Hall" thing, I just know about it because a friend attended there... maybe he referred to it as Teddy's Hall?
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PDJM

Joined: 25 Mar 2006
Posts: 1
College of Oxford
Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:52 PM
The ChCh BCLs are an excellent and friendly bunch- I would not describe them as "rah" in any way.

As for the fame of respective colleges, although personally this should be irrelevant for your choice: you will find Christ Church and Magdalen are the most famous. Balliol is however renowned for PPE, but does not have the same name recognition from the man in the street as the previous two. Although personally such factors are irrelevant.

If you wish to read more about the colleges outside of the perhaps partisan entries in the Graduate prospectus I would recommend Wikipeadia.
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