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TFH ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Joined: 27 Mar 2006 Posts: 12 |
Columbia No. 1 Again
Shortly after winning this year's Jessup International Law Moot Court as No. 1 out of 556 teams worldwide Columbia has trumped again:Tue Apr 18, 2006 07:01 PM Columbia was acclaimed as the Best Overall Team at the 13th Annual Willem C. Vis International Commercial Arbitration Moot. Competing for six days in Vienna among 156 teams and nearly 1000 students from around the world, Columbia advanced to semifinals of the team oral arguments and earned awards in every category: - 1st place for Claimant's Memorandum - Honorable Mention for Respondent's Memorandum (one of 10 honorable mentions out of 156 entries) - 3rd place team in the oral argument tournament - Individual Honorable Mentions for "Outstanding Oral Advocacy" for 2 Columbia Law School students. As a result of these achievements Columbia was acclaimed as the Best Overall Team! Even if these achievements are first of all the achievements of individual J.D. students it is probably not a pure fortunate coincidence that Columbia is this year No. 1 in the International Law Moot court AND No. 1 in the Arbitration Moot Court competing with 155 or 555 other teams worldwide respectively. |
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tmalmine ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 242 |
Columbia No. 1 Again
I'm starting to agree with those posters who have suggested that Columbia is starting to get desperate due to its abysmal admissions process, and consequently, is asking students to advertise the school. I have no doubt that Columbia is a great school with lots of talented students, but isn't it weird we don't see other schools being bragged on this board.
Tue Apr 18, 2006 08:05 PM |
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| ColumbiaJoe Joined: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 67 | Columbia No. 1 Again
Perhaps students from other schools don't have the same school spirit? Of more relevance to this website, I wanted to state that members of the two teams included LLMs.
Tue Apr 18, 2006 08:11 PM |
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albator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Posts: 21 |
Columbia No. 1 Again
Is Marietta a member of the Columbia Moot Court Team ?
Tue Apr 18, 2006 08:14 PM |
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cof ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 8 |
Columbia No. 1 Again
Come on, Columbia is great. :-)Tue Apr 18, 2006 08:26 PM Fair enough, Marietta isn't really helpful. But then, you are not attending courses held by Marietta...... Btw, there are quite a few LLMs who think that this person is insufferable - but who cares. She is not important at all for your year at CLS. |
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Cynic1995 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 28 |
Columbia No. 1 Again
For the record, I sat as arbitrator at this year's Vis Moot in Vienna and there was no such acclamation of Columbia as the best overall team. The Columbia team did well, but it did not win the competition -- that honour went to the team from London's Queen Mary -- and it certainly was not being hailed by all and sundry as the best team overall. Take that for what it's worth.Wed Apr 19, 2006 01:29 AM Peace, Cynic1995 |
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Paul ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 2005 Posts: 90 |
Columbia No. 1 Again
Hahaha...so now they are marketing "other schools" achievements. I must agree that some Columbia LLMs in this forum are desperate to show that Columbia is a good school (maybe b/c the new ranking puts Columbia and NYU tied in 4, way below the top 3). You know, all the top tier schools have great achievements every year (just go to the school’s webpage) but you don’t see students from Yale, Harvard or Stanford spending their time to post it here. Actually, if all current students do the same, this forum is going to be terribly boring…Peace and be happy!
Wed Apr 19, 2006 05:04 AM |
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terrie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Joined: 10 Feb 2006 Posts: 18 |
Columbia No. 1 Again
I was at the VIS MOOT too and I agree with Cynic1995 : Columbia was not acclaimed as the best team. In fact, the first prize went to Queen Mary University. The second best team was Stetson University. Columbia was NOT n°1 and was NOT hailed as the best team. Columbia did not even make it to the finals !Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:28 AM As for best oralist, the first prize went to a speaker from Osgoode Law School. Here also, Columbia was NOT n°1. As for the LLM members in the Columbia team at the VIS moot, I understand they were former J.D.s from other law schools. [Edited by link updater on 19 Apr 2006] |
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Salomon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Posts: 61 |
Columbia No. 1 Again
BREAKING NEWS !!!!Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:47 AM An LL.M. student of Columbia Law School just broke the 100m sprint world record and ran below the mythic threshold of 9". Simultaneously, he also saved a dozen of toddlers involved in a bus accident. He has been awarded the Purple Heart AND the Silver Star (which is the first time in US history). It is not the first exceptionnal achievement for the 8 year old Hrwasjsjkkjnhsjaozisknshna Parlsjskljljkowmzpesnssky (with a "y", pronounces as it spells) as he became last year, and in a total secrecy, the first Columbia student to travel in space. |
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irishguy23 ![]() Joined: 25 Mar 2006
Posts: 75 | Columbia No. 1 Again
O man this is so hilarious!!! Zing Saloman, a definite Zing. TFH HAS BEEN BURNED. I really dont think the admissions committee (as incompetant as they are) have anything to do with this idiot. He does however seem to spark some life into some very talented zingers on here. Bravo. Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:06 PM Here is a conspiracy theory for you. I'll bet its the Harvard admissions committee in collusion with Yale. They put up annoying posts about Columbia that they know will start a backlash and hey presto, people hate Columbia ..... Think about that one :) |
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ivan2006 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 312 |
Columbia No. 1 Again
Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:13 PM O man this is so hilarious!!! Zing Saloman, a definite Zing. TFH HAS BEEN BURNED. I really dont think the admissions committee (as incompetant as they are) have anything to do with this idiot. He does however seem to spark some life into some very talented zingers on here. Bravo. Irishguy, I gotta admit it´s an interesting theory... After Harvard´s second e-mail affair, all admissions became a sort of X-files... |
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AJ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 May 2005 Posts: 51 |
Columbia No. 1 Again
Hi all,Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:56 PM Just in case anyone still has a doubt, let me assure you that Cynic1995 and Terrie are correct as regards Columbia's position at Vis Moot. I myself was a participant this year and have just returned from Vienna. |
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AJ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 May 2005 Posts: 51 |
Columbia No. 1 Again
Hi again,Wed Apr 19, 2006 01:08 PM Let me also say please don't read too much into the Vis Moot results. The process goes something like this - 154 teams moot for 4 days continously ( twice as Claimant and Respondent) after which the top 32 teams with the highest totals advance to the next round. Henceforth, the competition is held on a knock out basis and many a times a lot of good teams are unable to make it to the end for one reason or the other. So the real credit is deserved by all those 32 teams who make it to the Finals after a 4 stage assessment process as against a single assessment made in the knock outs. That is why, perhaps, they are deemed Finalists. What I'm trying to say is that don't assess teams so much by who stood 1st or 2nd or 10th. All the 32 are perhaps up there, ofcourse with some variations, here or there. Hope this helps. |
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Salomon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Posts: 61 |
Columbia No. 1 Again
Wed Apr 19, 2006 02:56 PM O man this is so hilarious!!! Zing Saloman, a definite Zing. TFH HAS BEEN BURNED. I really dont think the admissions committee (as incompetant as they are) have anything to do with this idiot. He does however seem to spark some life into some very talented zingers on here. Bravo. Hey, don't you work for "another agency"... ? Your theory is just perfect, flawless. We've got something big here.... I think that, after the Watergate and the JFK assassination, it's another conspiracy that will shake USA. PS : it's Salomon, not Saloman (what do you think ? that I am Jewish... ?) PPS : What does Zing mean ? (Did you mean King, which, together with Salomon, would make more sense...?) |
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irishguy23 ![]() Joined: 25 Mar 2006
Posts: 75 | Columbia No. 1 Again
Zing is a slang word (probably confined to Ireland, home to all things odd). Means you made a clever funny/bitchy comment that should be celebrated by the saying of Zing. This conspiracy stuff is getting deep .... hmmmm ... lets see if we cant add to it. Maybe I really am an agent sent to fix the backlash of a failed admissions policy by trying to throw people off track. MAYBE, I'm part of a wide scale clean up and smear operation run by Fuhrer La Fargue. My mission, LETS BLAME HARVARD for EVERYTHING that went wrong here. People will believe, because they want them to be the enemy after the test e-mails. Thus will Columbia be saved from our incompetence.Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:13 AM MAYBE I was sent on here in the promise of a place on the next space mission. That eight year old just wont quit. OR maybe Harvard now know, that you know, that they were the ones originally responsible for the whole thing and are trying to confuse people to make them forget ..... thats right .... you will FORGET ALL YOU HAVE READ HERE ..... this is the Voice of Harvard ..... It really all boils down to the neverending battle between the schools for our souls, which they convert to a handy monetary figure and extract with the greatest amount of pain they can inflict. I dont think I should drink coke before I come on here anymore ...... [Edited by link updater on 20 Apr 2006] |
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Salomon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Posts: 61 |
Columbia No. 1 Again
Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:37 AM Zing is a slang word (probably confined to Ireland, home to all things odd). Means you made a clever funny/bitchy comment that should be celebrated by the saying of Zing. This conspiracy stuff is getting deep .... hmmmm ... lets see if we cant add to it. Maybe I really am an agent sent to fix the backlash of a failed admissions policy by trying to throw people off track. MAYBE, I'm part of a wide scale clean up and smear operation run by Fuhrer La Fargue. My mission, LETS BLAME HARVARD for EVERYTHING that went wrong here. People will believe, because they want them to be the enemy after the test e-mails. Thus will Columbia be saved from our incompetence. Zing, Zing, Zing !!! Are you sure you're DRINKING coke ? PS : Am still waiting for Columbia's decision. Marietta, if you swing by this discussion board once in a while, please stop ploting against Harvard and be so kind to send me my admission email. |
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Dr_Jekyll ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 83 |
Clarifying Columbia's Moot Court achievements
Dear all,Thu Apr 20, 2006 09:04 PM Let me moderate this a little bit. As you all know, I am an LLM at Columbia this year. I know TFH, and I know why his message has the content that he posted. Internally in the Law School, an email with misleading content was sent, and he relied on that email. Below, you will find the content of an email sent by the Administration of Columbia Law School to all students, describing what Columbia's team REALLY achieved:
Furthermore, in order to give you a sense of some more Columbia achievements, here is another one:
I hope this settles the matter. The wording of THF's email was of course unfortunate, but I think that the information that I just quoted make very clear what really was achieved. Now, I was not intending to do a PR stunt here, but this discussion became rather immature after the first replies, so I decided to intervene. Anyways, I hope you all have fun waiting for your replies, or choosing between the Law Schools you were admitted to. Whatever choice you will make, it will be the right one! DocJ |
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coco ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 40 |
Clarifying Columbia's Moot Court achievements
I wouldn't call it fun for most on this board. Do you think people enjoy waiting for the inept admissions officers to make their decisions this late in the season? It's disgraceful... and it tarnishes their reputation. $48k tuition and they can't get give us the slightest bit of consideration.
Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:24 PM |
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Dr_Jekyll ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 83 |
Clarifying Columbia's Moot Court achievements
Obviously people on this forum lack some basic sense of humor... I know that you are stressed right now because of all these admission letters that just don't want to land in your mailbox. But guess what: in 1 month you will laugh about all that!Tue Apr 25, 2006 03:55 AM DocJ |
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Salomon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Posts: 61 |
Clarifying Columbia's Moot Court achievements
Tue Apr 25, 2006 09:31 AM Obviously people on this forum lack some basic sense of humor... I know that you are stressed right now because of all these admission letters that just don't want to land in your mailbox. But guess what: in 1 month you will laugh about all that! 1 month ?! I laughed 13 seconds after I received my email. I agree with you Doc, people lack some sense of humor here (except for a happy few). |
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yueping ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 109 |
Clarifying Columbia's Moot Court achievements
Tue Apr 25, 2006 09:18 PM I know that you are stressed right now because of all these admission letters that just don't want to land in your mailbox. But guess what: in 1 month you will laugh about all that! That's assuming the email we get from them is good, which is far from certain at this point. |
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LenaZ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Clarifying Columbia's Moot Court achievements
@ SalomonWed Apr 26, 2006 12:51 PM "Here's laughing with you,kid..." Hiring information collected this year from 45 of the top 50 law firms listed on the National Law Journal's 2004 survey of the nation's largest law firms (five firms declined to participate); class size as collected by the American Bar Association for 2004 WHERE THE TOP 50 FIRMS HIRED FROM Law school: Assoc hired ’05;# of’04 J.Ds; % hired@ top 50 firms- Columbia Law 151 397 38% Northwestern 82 224 37% Univ Penn 91 249 37% Univ of Chicago 69 191 36% Stanford Law 57 177 32% Cornell Law 59 186 32% New York Univ 137 439 31% Harvard Law 166 551 30% Univ of Virginia 103 359 29% Duke Law 61 237 26% Yale Law School 46 183 25% Univ of Michigan 87 387 22% UC Berkeley 72 322 22% Georgetown U 149 687 22% Vanderbilt Univ 38 195 19% Univ of Texas 88 466 19% Univ of Illinois 39 214 18% UCLA 48 328 15% Univ Notre Dame 24 166 14% Boston University 33 233 14% |
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Paul ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 2005 Posts: 90 |
Clarifying Columbia's Moot Court achievements
WHAT A JOKE!!! There are so many flaws in this ranking that I am considering not wasting my time to discuss it.
Wed Apr 26, 2006 02:23 PM |
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LenaZ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Clarifying Columbia's Moot Court achievements
Help us out here... If it's a joke we all want to laugh...Wed Apr 26, 2006 03:18 PM Many of us out here don't have the experience to determine what is a fallcious numerical manipulation from an arithmatical summation. It was just taken off of the National Law Journal website and it appears to be just a numerical sumation of the number of JD's that were hired by the top 50 law firms. www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=112625670… |
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Paul ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 2005 Posts: 90 |
Clarifying Columbia's Moot Court achievements
Okay. I will offer my help. Wed Apr 26, 2006 07:15 PM 1) Many top students clerk for a couple of years before joining a law firm. Specially true for Yale, Harvard and Stanford. 2) Many top students (specially JDs-MBAs) go to ngos, I-banks, private equity funds. So the ranking does not show how many students wanted to work for a top law firm and eventually got a position. My experience tells me that ANY JD from Yale, Harvard or Stanford can get into a top 50 firm. 3) I don't think it is the same to be hired by a top-tier firm (top 10 vault guide) and a bottom 50. The ranking makes no difference. 4) I just cannot believe that your chances to get hired in a Top 50 law firm is much higher if you go to Northwestern than Harvard or Yale. Can you???? Can we all laugh now? |
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