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NUSLLM-alantan

Joined: 07 Jul 2006
Posts: 47
LLM at NUS, Singapore - Happy to Receive Enquiries
Sat Jul 08, 2006 06:01 PM
Greetings everyone. I am Vice-Dean and Director of Graduate Programmes at the NUS Faculty of Law. I had chanced upon this website and thought, why not get accurate information from the horse's mouth? I shall be happy to assist anyone requiring more information about our LLM and PhD programmes. While our website provides detailed information, I'm sure you'll agree that nothing beats a personal communication. Write me directly at alantan@nus.edu.sg - my profile is at
law.nus.edu.sg/faculty/staff/profileview.asp?Userlawtankj

Regards,
Alan Tan
Associate Professor, Faculty of Law, National University of Singapore
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vigneswaran

Joined: 18 Jul 2007
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Thu Jul 19, 2007 04:03 PM
Hello sir,

im vignesh doin my LL.B fourth year in india i need to know wat is my oppurtunity of joinin LLM in NUS after finishing my LLB and wats the procedure to apply for IPR course in LLM and do u have placement oppurtunities pls give me some guidance so that i could join ur institution and my id is vikky360@gmail.com

[Edited 19 Jul 2007 by vigneswaran]
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NUSLLM-alantan

Joined: 07 Jul 2006
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 04:11 AM
We would welcome you to submit your application for admission in August 2008. We have an LLM in Intellectual Property and Technology Law, which is very popular for students intending to specialise in IPR, technology, media, biotechnology and digital regulation issues. The procedure is explained on our website at law.nus.edu.sg/prospective/postgraduate.htm (click on the relevant programme as well as the gray links on the left for information on fees, scholarships, admission requirements etc.). Applications for August 2008 admission will open only in September/October 2007. So watch out for details on the website above.

Placement opportunities are certainly available, even though there is never a guarantee of jobs. A large proportion of our LLM graduates from India this year have found positions in Singapore.

Alan Tan
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anonymousindia

Joined: 03 Apr 2007
Posts: 4
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Wed Jul 25, 2007 01:46 PM
Dear Mr. Tan

I had recently concluded my subject registration. However, I wish to switch certain subjects before the academic session starts. Keeping in mind that I had opted for the Corporate and Financial Services Law, I wish to take 'Banking Law' instead of the 'International Investment Law' and 'Credit & Security' in place of 'World Trade Law'. Lastly, I also request for permission to drop 'International and Comparative Law of Sale in Asia'. I realise this arrangement would leave me with a total of 16 credits for this semster due to which I seek your consent to take 24 credits for the next semster. I am aware that this selection should have been sorted out earlier, but in hindsight I thought it best to specialise in a particular field rather than take an assortment of introductory subjects from diverse fields. I apologise for any inconvenience which may be caused due to this belated request and hope that the issue can be given a sympathetic treatment.
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ozman

Joined: 26 Jul 2007
Posts: 57
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Tue Jul 31, 2007 06:03 PM
Hi Mr Tan, first of all i would like to say that i have read your profile in detail, and i have to say i am very impressed not only by you leading the law faculty but also by the NUS Law School as a whole. I would like to apply for the NYU@NUS programme, as i do feel that the dynamics of this programme are currently unmatchable anywhere in the world. I have done my LLB from the University of London(external programme) and i also did my BVC from ICSL this year and therefore i am a member of the England and Wales Bar. I wanted to ask you about my chances of getting into the NYU@NUS programme, i know it is a degree which is predominantly controlled by the NYU, however i still feel that you would know a great deal about it. Can i also apply for a scholarship and if yes which one do you suggest that i apply for. Further i also wish to study for another LLM after completing the NYU@NUS programme(although i would have two LLMs already at two world class universities) but it is just a personal goal that i want to achieve by specialising in different areas. I would preferably like to apply to a IVY league school, what kind of an advantage would i have having done the NYU@NUS programme, i know are of a nature which cannot have definite answers, but still as you said there is nothing like personal communication and that too with a dean.
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ozman

Joined: 26 Jul 2007
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Mon Aug 06, 2007 07:25 AM
hi Mr Tan, i have recently heard that harvard law school will not allow students with llms from nyu and nus to study for an llm programme at harvard... could you somehow confirm this news...
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michaelcorleone

Joined: 17 Sep 2006
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Mon Aug 06, 2007 02:17 PM
the good thing is, if you get just one LLM (e.g. one LLM from NUS, or a BCL from Oxford, or an LLM from Kyushu), Harvard will allow you to take their LLM. I suppose the NYU-NUS program is unique, because you get two LLMs immediately. That's a huge plus, but the drawback is, some institutions will view you as having already received two advanced degrees, and their programme will be superfluous already, so they would encourage you to go straight to their JSD.

[Edited 06 Aug 2007 by michaelcorleone]
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Dee

Joined: 16 Jul 2007
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 06:49 AM
Hello Mr.Tan,
I'm interested in pursuing LLM In IP at NUS. I would like to know abt the job prospects in Europe.
thanks in advance.
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CARTY

Joined: 18 Aug 2007
Posts: 6
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Sun Aug 19, 2007 04:24 PM
Mr.Tan,
sir, can u tell me when u will issue application for the acdemic year 2008/2009. LLM coursework
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CARTY

Joined: 18 Aug 2007
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Sun Aug 19, 2007 04:30 PM
Mr.Alan Tan,
sir, right from my kinder garden(LKG) i studied in english medium .whtr i have to write any exams like TOFEL ,IELTS.... to apply for the LLM course work in NUS
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NUSLLM-alantan

Joined: 07 Jul 2006
Posts: 47
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:19 AM
Applications for admission in August 2008 will open in early October 2007. Students who have studied in English may submit a request for waiver of TOEFL/IELTS.

Regards
Alan Tan
NUS Law
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CARTY

Joined: 18 Aug 2007
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 02:17 AM
Mr Alan Tan,
Thank You sir
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nareshpareek

Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Posts: 20
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Sun Sep 09, 2007 03:45 PM
Dear Mr. Tan,
As i understand from the application form, a personal statement is not required to be submited alongwith the application but does it make any kind difference or does it give edge over other candidates if you submit a personal statement with your application.
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NUSLLM-alantan

Joined: 07 Jul 2006
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Sat Sep 29, 2007 02:23 PM
That is right. A personal statement is not necessary, but to the extent that it gives us more information about yourself (that isn't already revealed in the application information), go ahead and provide one.

By the way, the application process for admission in August 08 will open next week. We have been busy all this week preparing the new information to be uploaded on the website.

Regards,
Alan Tan
Vice-Dean, Graduate Programmes
NUS Law
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nareshpareek

Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Posts: 20
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Sat Sep 29, 2007 05:34 PM
Thank you Mr. Tan, that helps a lot

Further, jst one more query...i know people have already raised it on number of occassions but still to have a better clarity, does NUS follows a policy of giving waiver for english proficiency test? If yes, then whether a certificate from the Registrar of my university would suffice?
Apologies for troubling you time again

Thank you
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syanu

Joined: 31 Dec 2007
Posts: 3
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Tue Jan 01, 2008 05:12 PM
Hallo Mr. Alan Tan

I want to asking about the proportion seat that will be available for Interational students who apply to NUS, is there any certainty number of seat for International students??? How bout working experience, there is priority to accept applier who has working experience??? (...)

Thanks...
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NUSLLM-alantan

Joined: 07 Jul 2006
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Wed Jan 02, 2008 08:10 AM
Dear applicant, we have no fixed seats or quota for international students, or for any nationality, for that matter. Admission is thus by merit. Working experience is certainly relevant, but does not in itself give special priority to an applicant. We will consider the entire record of the applicant, including grades in university, working experience (if any), references from professors, other achievements, etc.

I hope this helps :)

Alan Tan
Vice-Dean, NUS Law
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anawangwulan

Joined: 08 Jan 2008
Posts: 1
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Wed Jan 09, 2008 08:31 AM
Dear Mr. Tan,

I would like to ask you upon scholarships awarded by NUS. How many scholarships are there in NUS?. What is the criteria for an applicant (especially for foreign student) to be granted with the scholarships?. And is it applicable for any courses available in NUS?.

Thank you
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NUSLLM-alantan

Joined: 07 Jul 2006
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Fri Jan 11, 2008 09:37 AM
The good news is that we do not have a ceiling on the number of scholarships. Any number can be awarded, if the students deserve it. The criteria are: excellent results at the undergraduate level, and outstanding achievements in other related fields, e.g. mooting, journals, student leadership, pro bono/public interest work, etc (we are flexible in assessing non-classroom achievements). And the scholarships are available for all the LLM and PhD programmes.

Alan Tan
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Anonymous100

Joined: 30 Jan 2008
Posts: 2
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 02:36 AM
Dear Sir,

There are certain rumors going around, which i would like to have clarified by the Dean himself.

Firstly, it is believed that there are two batches in NUS in a year. One better than the other. is this true ? On what basis is this distinction made?
Secondly, apparently the recruitment is not so successful in NUS, would you kindly tell us an estimated percentage of all LLM students in a batch that get recruited.
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NUSLLM-alantan

Joined: 07 Jul 2006
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 04:03 AM
I am happy to address your queries head-on. We have three intakes a year, the NYU@NUS group in May, the LLM International Business Law group in July, and the other LLM concentration groups in August (all these are described in detail on our website at law.nus.edu.sg/prospective/postgraduate.htm.)

Each programme is targeted at different groups of students, depending on their interests. These are not different "batches", but different programmes altogether.

The first is a dual degree programme with NYU, the second is a joint programme with the ECUPL in Shanghai that enables students to study in and experience both Singapore and Shanghai, and the third has the students study entirely at NUS in Singapore with various concentrations available. The competitive pool will vary within each group of applicants (students choose which programme they want), so it is inaccurate and inappropriate to claim that "one is better than the other". In my professional view, the best students in each group are comparable to one another (taking into account variations in language proficiency, if English is not the first language).

As for recruitment, it depends on where the students are recruited. If you include students who get recruited in their home countries (and many students do wish to return to their countries after their studies), it would be almost the entire group that end up with jobs. If you are thinking about recruitment in Singapore only, that depends very much on the grades that the students obtain, as well as the country he/she is from. Because non-Singaporean LLM students do not qualify to take the Singapore Bar and to practise Singapore law, they typically get hired by Singapore firms to advise on the laws of their home countries only. As such, the Indians, Chinese, Indonesians and some European nations tend to get employed pretty quickly, naturally, because of the sizeable business/trade between Singapore and these countries, requiring law firms to have expertise in the laws of these countries. In the last couple of academic years, for instance, around 80 per cent of our Indian graduates who wanted to remain in Singapore got employment with Singapore companies. I would say that that is a pretty good number.

As we emphasise to our students, getting recruitment in Singapore is never a guarantee, as long as the legal profession has restrictions on foreign lawyers.

I hope this goes some way toward clarifying some of the misperceptions on your part.

Alan Tan
Vice-Dean and Director, Graduate Programmes
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michaelcorleone

Joined: 17 Sep 2006
Posts: 68
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 04:43 AM
wow, this is quite helpful. thanks dean tan. i read before that one of the partners that NUS was considering in its LLM in international business law was peking university. is that still in the works?
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lawla

Joined: 30 Jan 2008
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 08:35 AM
Dear Mr. Tan,
I have heard from propsective and admitted students that NUS prefers to admit freshers (i.e. students with no work experience) to the LLM program (LLM at NUS) rather than students who have some work experience. IS my understanding correct? Request you clarify the same. Many Thanks.
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NUSLLM-alantan

Joined: 07 Jul 2006
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:20 PM
Thank you for your question. Again, that is a misperception.

Quite clearly, we value both academic achievement AND work experience. Naturally, an applicant who has both these qualities will stand at the top of the heap, and that will come as no surprise for anyone.

Then we have freshers with good academic achievements from top law schools, with little or no work experience (save perhaps for internships). We would admit these if we assess them as demonstrating excellent promise to become future leaders in their fields.

We then have the category of applicants with average grades or achievements in law school, but who have had a few years of working experience (and professional maturity) to make up for it. We would admit this group readily, if their work experience is relevant and they show evidence of having excelled in a top law firm or distinguished government/NGO position. Often, though, it is a difficult judgment call for us, and work experience may not always be adjudged to make up for lacklustre grades. It really depends on what type of work the person has been doing.

Overall, we turn away a large number of applicants (both freshers and those with experience) because we are a competitive law school. Naturally, this causes disappointment among some, but there is little we can do about it! It also means that you may hear some things which may not be altogether accurate, and I am happy to provide a clearer picture of our admissions process.

Alan Tan
Vice-Dean and Director, Graduate Programmes,
NUS Law
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nareshpareek

Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Posts: 20
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 02:25 PM

[Edited 01 Feb 2008 by nareshpareek]
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