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Malk In Black Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 40	King's or Trinity ? Fri Jul 14, 2006 05:43 PM Which one has the greatest reputation ?
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Jazzman Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 129	King's or Trinity ? Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:53 AM In terms of how the institutions are perceived, I would definitely say King's has the better reputation. But it really depends on what area of law you are planning to focus upon.
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Malk In Black Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 40	King's or Trinity ? Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:28 AM General legal studies : EC Law, Common Law and all. What really interests me is definitely the international reputation of the institutions... and the quality of the day to day life ;p
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Jazzman Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 129	King's or Trinity ? Sat Jul 15, 2006 01:22 PM In terms of international reputation, I would say King's is better. But if you are also considering day to day quality of life it depends whether you either love or hate a big city. I'm living in London at the moment and am hoping to go to UCL in September - if I get the grade for the conditional offer. My advice would be if you like the idea of spending a year in London - go for King's - because it also has the global reputation.
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Malk In Black Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 40	King's or Trinity ? Sat Jul 15, 2006 02:06 PM ... Whereas Trinity only has a regional repuation ? I have been living in Paris and Brussels, so going to a big city will not be such a pain at all... Is there a real student life in London ? Especially compared to cities (from what I've heard about) like Edinburgh, Dublin or even Manchester... Good luck for your admission to UCL. By the way : where are you studying at the mo' ? [Edited 15 Jul 2006 by Malk In Black]
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Jazzman Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 129	King's or Trinity ? Sat Jul 15, 2006 05:29 PM I think it would be fair to say that if you went beyond Europe - King's has a more recognisible brand name. And yes, I think it is correct that Trinity has more of a regional European reputation. If you only ever want to work in Europe I think Trinity has particular strengths - especially in European and International Human Rights Law. Your interests seem to be quite varied - so I think the intercollegiate nature of the London Uni LLM may suit you. Plus you have the added benefit of not having to finalise your course choices until 2 weeks into the London programme!! So it offers great flexibility. But it is quite a hard decision! I think that no matter how you look at it - the London University LLM has a much greater international reputation. I think you are right too... if you have lived in Paris then the busy nature of London will not faze you! As for myself I have just completed the GDL at BPP Law School in London. I worked as a journalist and economics lecturer before that - I'm 26 and this is now my third career! But at least I'm able to do some legal journalism now to pay the bills during the summer. My first degree was a BA Political Economy. Btw...many thanks for your good luck message. [Edited 15 Jul 2006 by Jazzman]
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marco Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 44	King's or Trinity ? Sun Jul 16, 2006 01:32 PM Malk. it's really a big question.......i'm really confused, too: London or Dublin?? oh it's sooo diffucult to decide!
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Malk In Black Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 40	King's or Trinity ? Sun Jul 16, 2006 01:36 PM Anche tu sei stato ammesso a Londra ?
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marco Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 44	King's or Trinity ? Sun Jul 16, 2006 01:42 PM si, a UCL e QMUL....devo scegliere alla svelta....sicuramente sono tutte, come pure il Trinity, ottime Università, ad esempio se qualcuno volesse fare il Phd...è proprio una difficile scelta! vorrei andare in tutte! anche tu sei così indeciso?
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Malk In Black Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 40	King's or Trinity ? Sun Jul 16, 2006 02:14 PM Da quel che ho sentito, QMUL mi sembra ottima per IP. Ma UCL gode di una riputazione internazionale ! Molto indeciso. Sopratutto, l'UEFA mi ha proposto un contratto di 2 anni... Che fare ? Un anno li e spostare l'ammissione in LLM al anno prossimo? Un problemà di lusso...
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Irkalein Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 17	King's or Trinity ? Sun Jul 16, 2006 05:46 PM Hi Malk, I would definitely say King's has a better reputation than Trinity and UCL is greater than King's.Are you changing your mind about going to Trinity? What about you, Marco? Hope, I am not going on my own to Dublin:)
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Jazzman Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 129	King's or Trinity ? Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:42 AM I would agree that UCL internationally does have the best "brand name" out of the colleges mentioned in this thread. But you need to consider the fact that no matter which college you go to within the federation of University of London colleges - be it QMUL, Kings, UCL - you will have the opportunity to choose from 150 courses (although 2 of the four courses you take must be from your own college). Very few internationally respected universities are able to offer such a variety of choice. Dublin has great advantages too - beautiful city with really friendly people! The most important thing for you to do is: 1) Consider which areas you would like to specialise in. If you are looking to have a wide variety - King's is your best bet. 2) Think about whether you want to work in Europe or Internationally. The University of London is certainly more internationally recognised in terms of its brand. Very best of luck with your decision! [Edited 17 Jul 2006 by Jazzman]
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Lorcan Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 1	King's or Trinity ? Fri Aug 04, 2006 02:04 AM I am starting a research degree in Trinity in October. As regards trinitys reputation, it was established in a trinity of colleges along with Oxford and Cambridge. Trinitys international rep is outstanding to say the least. Although Kings is a very reputable college Trinity would be more respected around Europe and the World for that matter. A fellow student of mine read for a L.L.B in Trinity and then a masters, he now works for a top American law firm in London and another student with the same background now works for a large Chicago based law firm. Trinity is an outstanding law school and is known and respected all over the world. regrads.
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Jazzman Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 129	King's or Trinity ? Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:53 PM Trinity is obviously an excellent school, but if you were to look at the numbers of graduates at top firms anywhere in the world, I'm afraid you would find far more King's graduates.
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krokodile Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 5	King's or Trinity ? Sun Nov 19, 2006 05:42 PM Hi everyone, I have read all your posts and I would like to tell you a bit about the Trinity College LL.M. First of all, in terms of reputation, I has been said already, but I want to say it again: Trinity is a well-known University. Any person who has set foot in Ireland has heard of Trinity. Trinity is literally a monument. Not only does the college have a spectacular campus right in the middle of the Irish capital, it is also staffed with great academics. Trinity has partner universities in America, Asia and Europe. It scores higher than King's College in some league tables, lower in some others... but it is definitely at least as well-known as King's. Most of the famous Irish people have - at some stage - studied in Trinity. Not just the classics (such as Oscar Wilde, Bram Stoker, Edmund Burke, Samuel Beckett) but also most Irish politicians and major lawyers. When one thinks of University + UK, one thinks of Oxbridge. When one thinks of University + Ireland, one thinks of Trinity. I don't mean to be rude to the fans of King's College (which is a great college) but Trinity is a very famous institution (and it was already famous before the creation of King's College). Trinity hosts loads of interesting events. All major politicians and academics coming to Ireland pay a visit to the students of Trinity. In my opinion, this is a major difference between Trinity and King's. Trinity is the (epi)center of the Irish academic world, King's is not the center of the British academic world, not even the English academic world. Ireland is a much smaller country than the UK, but it enjoys a very good reputation abroad (especially in America) and many American students come to study in Trinity for some years. Check out the alumni pages to find out more. You will see that Trinity graduates are quite successful in their careers too. I read in another post that there are more King's graduates in big law firms... there is a simple explanation for this: King's LLM has twice as many students as Trinity's. In Trinity there are around 60 students doing the LLM every year. Your lecturers know your name, your classmates know your name, there are weekly get-togethers... and the big law firms come from London and the USA to recruit you. Indeed, all the bg law firms come to Dublin in the Winter and organise events for Irish law students. This might be an important point for all of you who are law students from civil law countries: the English-speaking world does not have the borders we have. Many Trinity LLMers go work in the USA, in Canada and in London. Concerning the studies: The courses offered in Trinity are rich in several fields: Human Rights (including a course on Timor Leste or another one on African Human Rights - very rare in Europe - followed by a summer seminar with African Chief Justices), European Law (European IP Law, Banking Law, Telecommunications Law but also European Legal History)... I think that when asking yourself if you'd rather go to Trinity or King's you should think about the courses offered in each college. Both colleges are good and well-known. London is huge and vibrant, Dublin is festive and exciting. Both cities are great. Concerning the everyday life in Dublin, I would say that there's a lot to do. The pub per capita ratio is very high so you won't have a hard time finding nice places to party. The city's cultural life is not as rich as that of London but if you're only going to stay one year in Dublin, you'll have something new to see every day. Studying in Trinity is also a great opportunity to discover Ireland. For 3 euros you can go to the nice beaches of Bray and Greystones. They are only 10 minutes away with DART (the fast train - there's a station right next to the campus). Dublin is only 2 hours away from Belfast, 3 hours 30 from Galway, 4 hours from Cork... There are daily ferries for Manchester, Liverpool, the Isle of Man and loads of cheap flight (as the famous low-cost airline Ryanair is based in Dublin). If you book a couple of weeks in advance you'll be able to fly to Paris, London or Brussels for only 40 euros (round ticket - taxes included). I'm not trying to advertise for this company, I just want to tell you that if you live in Dublin and you're on a budget you'll still be able to travel. There are dozens of very active student societies in Trinity. The most famous being the Phil and the Hist (which organise weekly debates with interesting personalities - ranging from Salman Rushdie to Al Pacino). You can find out about all the student societies on Trinity's website. There are also plenty of moot courts to take part too. And since Ireland is small, it's easier to qualify for the finals of international moot courts (indeed there are only 7 universities in Ireland...) :-) I don't want to tell you that Trinity is way better than King's. I have studied in Trinity, I have only been to King's on a limited number of occasions. What I want to tell you is that Trinity is a great college. That if you choose it over King's or Edimburgh you will not regret it. You should consider yourself very lucky to have been accepted. You now need to choose if you want to drive a Mercedes or a BMW. In any case, enjoy the ride!
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