http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779 en NYU General (and hopefully most popular) Notice Board - LLM GUIDE Discussion Board Sun, 28 Jan 2007 02:10:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#23779 Hi to all applicants to NYU LL.M. programms. I know, it is a hard time when all of us are waiting for admission letters from this great law school. I think we are in a sort of information vacuum, all waiting for March or April and don't know what to expect. That's why I would like to launch this NUY general (and hopefully most popular) notice board. Let's share the news, share who we are, when we applied, whether we've got notification or acceptance letters from NUY, whether we applied for any scholarships, to which LLM sub-programms we applied, as well as any other information that might be useful for all of us (for example, whether NYU is persoannly better for you than Columbia or Yale or Stanford or Harvard and why). So, let's discuss all kinds of questions related to out future education in the states, with a focus on NYU however. The reason for this notice board, as I said, is to avoid this information vacuum, as well as to start getting know each other, start networking, since I hope many of us will be studying together next year. So, I will start. I've applied to LLM in General Legal Studies, as well as for Hauser Global Scholarship. No decision yet, however, I've got the letter from NYU that my application package have been completed and will be reviewed. I've got it a few days ado. Why NYU - that's the best Law School in the States in terms of courses, professors, location and further career opportunities wherever you will next go. I wish you all good luck with your applications, and hope to hear from all of you. I also hope that this board will be the most popular one, and we'll get a lot of useful information here. Cheers, New Yorker (... hopefully... :) Sun, 28 Jan 2007 02:15:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#23780 By the way, does anybody know when the tuition fees for LLM programm are due at NYU: April, May, June, July, August? Thanks. New Y:o)rker Sun, 28 Jan 2007 02:29:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#23781 I just want to add something. I've seen that professors and even Vice-Deans of the Law Schools (for example, from NUS) participated in discussions on notice boards and provided very valuable comments and answers. I would like to say that professors and academic staff from NYU Law School are more than welcome to participate in our disccussions. Honestly, we really need your answers and participation and would be glad to hear from you. Thanks. New Y:o)rker Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:10:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#23798 The question was asked by KEYSER SOZE: Hi all, what whould you choose between Chicago and NYU? I know that Chicago is a small LLM (50 pers) which is in my view an advantage. In student quality ranking, it's as good as Stanford or Harvard, same for cleckships, etc... And NYU is far too big (450 LLM students)... But on the other hand, NYU is better ranked on US News, and is closer to NY firms. Your opinion? ********************* Any thoughts quys??? Actually, I would personally go to NYU. The reason is that I don't know anything about Chicago Law School (so, any thoughts are welcome from those who knows a lot about this school); I also know that Corporate LLM is one of the best in NYU; the career service is excellent, it's really superb; NYU has its job fair; it's easier to go to interview living in NYC than in Chicago; when getting an LLM (not JD) guys from the law firms are more reluctant to hire people from universities that are not in the list of 5 top (Yale, HRVD, STNFRD, CLMB and NYU); I know that Chicago is amazing, but NYC is the best in terms of socializing and spending the great time there. Any other thoughts (especially from Chicago defence side are welcome). Thanks. New Y:o)rker Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:16:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#23800 Another question was aksed by llm2007app :Does anyone know what the acceptance rates are for NYU and Columbia? NYU's web site says they received approximately 2000 applications for a class of 425 students. Obviously, their acceptance rate is at least 20%, but does anyone know anything more? Same question for Columbia. Here is the answer: Columbia acceptance rate: 14.6% (http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/directory/dir-law/brief/glanc_03104_brief.php) NYU acceptance rate: 21% (http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/directory/dir-law/brief/glanc_03110_brief.php) So, it looks like it easier to get to NYU :) Have a good day. New Y:o)rker Sun, 28 Jan 2007 15:31:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#23803 Those are acceptance rates for their JD Programs - I dont think anyone covers the stats for LLM Programs - so really one has to base a decision on reputation of college in your country + borrowed info -- which may be untrue sometimes (such as what we get occassionally on this site - say what?) For Corporate Law I would consider the following order (based on the information/misinformation I hv received over the course of the last yr): Harvard ≥ Columbia ≥ NYU ≥ Upenn ≥ Chicago Most likely I am heading for Columbia - unless One-L gives me a call :)) BUT 1 Q for Ex CLS Grads/current students & those in the know: Is the housing situation - the lottery and all at CLS due to insufficient housing for all incoming LLM students -- does it actually leave ppl stranded at the last minute. Is getting university acco at CLS, generally speaking, the norm or the exception? Thanx Sun, 28 Jan 2007 15:37:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#23804 Oops sorry New Yorker - didnt realize the thread was "NYU" specific (damn I should wear glasses) - Maybe we could discuss CLS issues as well, since NYU and CLS are both in New York Just drop me a PM n I will clear the post if its really NYU-only Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:23:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#23807 By the way, does anybody know when the tuition fees for LLM programm are due at NYU: April, May, June, July, August? Thanks. New Y:o)rker I guess we were supposed to pay for the tuition in late July/ early August. Apart from that, take into account that the housing fees (if you stay at Mercer or D´Agostino) are due in August (Fall term) and January (Spring term). Good luck in your application process! Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:36:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#23808 Master of Laws, thank you for your posts. Here are my thoughts: Those are acceptance rates for their JD Programs - I dont think anyone covers the stats for LLM Programs I knew that it would be the answer to my post, and I think you are right. These figures are for JD. However, NYU site says that the Law School received nearly 2,000 applications for full-time programs for a class of about 425 students in 2006. That's exactly 21% which was reflected on www.usnews.com. May be the figure for Columbia is also correct for LLM applicants. For Corporate Law I would consider the following order (based on the information/misinformation I hv received over the course of the last yr): Harvard ≥ Columbia ≥ NYU ≥ Upenn ≥ Chicago Most likely I am heading for Columbia - unless One-L gives me a call :)) Actually, I applied to both NYU and Columbia, so the decision will depend of course on the admission, and whether any of these two will give me a scholarship, at least full or partial tuition waiver. In case of no scholarship, I will be really considering both options. I have not applied to Harvard, since I personally prefer to stay in New York, however, I agree with you that it is the best for Corporate Law -- in terms of career prospectives the firms like Harvard (law firms, and especially investment banks). So, good luck with One-L. BUT 1 Q for Ex CLS Grads/current students & those in the know: Is the housing situation - the lottery and all at CLS due to insufficient housing for all incoming LLM students -- does it actually leave ppl stranded at the last minute. Is getting university acco at CLS, generally speaking, the norm or the exception? Thanx I don't know about the situation with accomodation at CLS, I just know that there is no such problem at NYU. My friends were really satisfied with accomodation there (may be except for the fees) -- it is close to the Law School and apartments are nice. As to you second post, actually, I was considering initially to discuss both NYU and CLS here, since I've applied to both and they are really similar in terms of many criteria. So, I THINK IT'S GOOD IDEA TO CONSIDER THESE TWO SCHOOLS IN THIS FORUM AND I INVITE ALL TO DO THIS. By the way, where are you from Master of Laws and to which programm you've applied. Thanks for your input once again. Cheers, New Y:o)rker Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:38:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#23809 By the way, does anybody know when the tuition fees for LLM programm are due at NYU: April, May, June, July, August? Thanks. New Y:o)rker I guess we were supposed to pay for the tuition in late July/ early August. Apart from that, take into account that the housing fees (if you stay at Mercer or D´Agostino) are due in August (Fall term) and January (Spring term). Good luck in your application process! Thanks ivan, that's really helpful, as well as your blog. Cheers, New Y:o)rker Mon, 29 Jan 2007 02:00:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#23813 "Actually, I would personally go to NYU. The reason is that I don't know anything about Chicago Law School (so, any thoughts are welcome from those who knows a lot about this school); I also know that Corporate LLM is one of the best in NYU; the career service is excellent, it's really superb; NYU has its job fair; it's easier to go to interview living in NYC than in Chicago; when getting an LLM (not JD) guys from the law firms are more reluctant to hire people from universities that are not in the list of 5 top (Yale, HRVD, STNFRD, CLMB and NYU); I know that Chicago is amazing, but NYC is the best in terms of socializing and spending the great time there. Any other thoughts (especially from Chicago defence side are welcome)." Here some thoughts on that: First of all: I am biased, as I am in Chicago right now. Chicago participates in the Columbia Job Fair which includes Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Stanford, Michigan, Chicago and Virginia. From what I’ve heard from employers, this is the more valued job fair (this is what I have HEARD, I can’t personally comment on that, so please don’t take it as an attempt of insult or whatever). Several law firm partners told me that the quality of NYU LL.M.s is not always 100% satisfactory – if you take in 450 LL.M.s, you can’t be too selective. Furthermore, NYU is for many - not for all, and strongly depending on special interests – just a “safe bet”. I think that almost all of the LL.M.s in Chicago were admitted to NYU and many to Columbia and still chose Chicago (I only think as I did not speak to all about that; those I spoke to were at least admitted to NYU). And to refer to the US News Ranking in saying that employers just consider the top five is not a very convincing argument. First, most people agree that Chicago’s rank in the US News Ranking is significantly to low. However, I do not want to dive into a ranking discussion. But keep that in mind when you guess about employer’s interests. And that is it – a guess, or did you speak to employers? The JDs from Chicago and many of the LL.M.s who want to have a job in New York get a job in the Big Apple. Chicago has a strong reputation for its rigorous course program – the quarter system quickens the pace and you have to make more credits than in any other law school. All of the classes are small and, additionally, you get into all the classes you want. I heard differently with respect to Columbia, but this is hearsay as I obviously don’t have experienced Columbia on my own. If you want to do corporate law, Chicago is a great place to do that. Not only that you have the main classes you will (more or less) enjoy everywhere, there a lot of seminars on a wide variety of corporate or securities related topics. Generally, Chicago has great professors. Furthermore, if you are interested in some background information on modern corporate and securities law, you have to get a sense of law and economics. And there is no better place to do that in the US than in Chicago, the cradle of law and economics, classical as well as modern behavioral law and econ. (Richard Posner, Easterbrook, Sunstein, Baird, Epstein, Picker… you name it). And the business school is just 5min from the law school, so if you are interested in taking classes with a nobel prize laureate (e.g. Gary Becker), this is your opportunity. With respect to taking the New York bar: Chicago has a great passage rate. Furthermore, face reality: Preparing the bar means Barbri. And if you do the Barbri course in NY or in Chicago doesn’t matter a bit. It is just sitting on you lower back and trying to put as many details in your head as possible. This is not a matter of law school, but a matter of your own discipline. If you want to look for a job in NY: for sure, there is an obvious advantage to live in NYC. However, flights to NY from Chicago are cheap (I paid around 100 bucks to get there and to come back). In terms of socialising: I know all of the people in my program and this is great. And you actually get to know JDs. For me, this is quite important about my time in the US, as I am here to speak with those whose first language is English. I doubt this will be as easy in the NY schools. Especially if you have extra classes for LL.M.s. This was quite a bit, so I’ll stop. Whatever school you will choose in the end, you will have a great year. Cheers, Yps. Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:48:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#23852 Yps, thanks for your post - that's really helpful for those who are considering both Law Schools. Your comments are even more valuable, since you're already studying in Chicago. So, a lot of nice things have been said about Chicago. So, some more about NYU. Just for people, who are considering both schools to have more information. Yps, please do not consider as smth against Chicago. Just some thoughts, since it is for the best interest of all applicants to analyse both schools from different sides. Chicago participates in the Columbia Job Fair which includes Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Stanford, Michigan, Chicago and Virginia. From what I’ve heard from employers, this is the more valued job fair (this is what I have HEARD, I can’t personally comment on that, so please don’t take it as an attempt of insult or whatever). I agree with this statement with one qualification. What is the reason for Columbia Job Fair to be considered as the most valued one. It does not necessarily mean that it is Chicago which makes this Job Fair so attractive. It may be Harvard, Yale, Stanford, it may be the combination of all these law schools. So, I propose to take this qualification into account when considering law schools. Several law firm partners told me that the quality of NYU LL.M.s is not always 100% satisfactory – if you take in 450 LL.M.s, you can’t be too selective. Good statement. Agree. However, when making my own choise I would consider the law school ranking by employment rate, which is currently as follows: 1. Yale CT 99% 2. Duke NC 98% 3. U. of Virginia VA 97% 3. NYU NY 97% 3. Harvard MA 97% 6. Stanford CA 96% 6. U of Chicago IL 96% 6. Columbia NY 96% 9. BYU UT 95% 9. Notre Dame IN 95% 9. Vanderbilt TN 95% 9. Cornell NY 95 % http://www.ilrg.com/schools/employ/ Actually, NYU has the third place, whereas Chicago has the six. At the same time it is just 1% separating them from each other. So, I would say that the employment rate is quite the same. However, please keep in mind that if you go to law firms after your graduation, some law firms have their own preferences in hiring graduates. For example, Cleary loves NYU students, Cravath loves One-Ls, etc. So, if you would like to work in Cleary afterwards, please consider this. Furthermore, NYU is for many - not for all, and strongly depending on special interests – just a “safe bet”. I think that almost all of the LL.M.s in Chicago were admitted to NYU and many to Columbia and still chose Chicago (I only think as I did not speak to all about that; those I spoke to were at least admitted to NYU). May be it's true. And to refer to the US News Ranking in saying that employers just consider the top five is not a very convincing argument. First, most people agree that Chicago’s rank in the US News Ranking is significantly to low. However, I do not want to dive into a ranking discussion. I would still consider the ranking. It's is hard to explain to people at the interview that the law school is actually undervalued in the ranking list. But I wouldn't say that Chicago has bad ranking. It's is actually fifth. But keep that in mind when you guess about employer’s interests. And that is it – a guess, or did you speak to employers? I said "more reluctant", and some of them really are. But frankly speaking, if you are really bright, does it really matter are you from NYU which is 4th or from Chicago which is 6th in the ranking list, but actually 5th, since it goes right after NYU. The JDs from Chicago and many of the LL.M.s who want to have a job in New York get a job in the Big Apple. WIth JDs it's true. With LLM's, not many, even from Harvard or Yale. It's really hard to get in. That's experience of my friends for the past 1.5 year. What you need is really good marks at law school. Chicago has a strong reputation for its rigorous course program – the quarter system quickens the pace and you have to make more credits than in any other law school. All of the classes are small and, additionally, you get into all the classes you want. I heard differently with respect to Columbia, but this is hearsay as I obviously don’t have experienced Columbia on my own. If you want to do corporate law, Chicago is a great place to do that. Not only that you have the main classes you will (more or less) enjoy everywhere, there a lot of seminars on a wide variety of corporate or securities related topics. Generally, Chicago has great professors. Furthermore, if you are interested in some background information on modern corporate and securities law, you have to get a sense of law and economics. And there is no better place to do that in the US than in Chicago, the cradle of law and economics, classical as well as modern behavioral law and econ. (Richard Posner, Easterbrook, Sunstein, Baird, Epstein, Picker… you name it). And the business school is just 5min from the law school, so if you are interested in taking classes with a nobel prize laureate (e.g. Gary Becker), this is your opportunity. This information is really valuable. I would take it into account when considering the law schools. But the same goes for NYU. Also good reputation. And NYU Stern is the right next building to the Law School With respect to taking the New York bar: Chicago has a great passage rate. Furthermore, face reality: Preparing the bar means Barbri. And if you do the Barbri course in NY or in Chicago doesn’t matter a bit. It is just sitting on you lower back and trying to put as many details in your head as possible. This is not a matter of law school, but a matter of your own discipline. Right. If you want to look for a job in NY: for sure, there is an obvious advantage to live in NYC. However, flights to NY from Chicago are cheap (I paid around 100 bucks to get there and to come back). I just would like to add that another advantage of NYU is that a number of counsels and partners from NYC law firms teach at NYU. Good contacts. In terms of socialising: I know all of the people in my program and this is great. And you actually get to know JDs. For me, this is quite important about my time in the US, as I am here to speak with those whose first language is English. I doubt this will be as easy in the NY schools. Especially if you have extra classes for LL.M.s. LLMs study with JD at NYU. Whatever school you will choose in the end, you will have a great year. Cheers, Yps. I would add that after considering this post once again that Chicago and NYU are really on the same level in many terms. Whatever school you chose at the end of the day, you will make a right choise. Cheers. New Y:o)rker Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:59:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#23857 Just a reminder, the employment rates you mentioned only count JD students. I don't think it in anyway reflects chances of employment for LLM grads. Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:23:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#23863 Just a reminder, the employment rates you mentioned only count JD students. I don't think it in anyway reflects chances of employment for LLM grads. Thanks for this comment. Indeed, those rates are for JD students, and they do not reflect chances of employment for LLM graduates. For example, only 4% of 2005 NYU LLM graduates got the permanent jobs at law firms in NYC (for those who get 1 year internship and go back to work for the same firm in his/her country this figure is higher). I referred to the rank, since I believe it reflects somehow the attitude of employers from NYC towards students from different law schools. Although LLMs should not use it to consider what their chances for employment in New York are, but to take an idea of what is the employers' attitude to the law school in general. Cheers, New Y:o)rker Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:41:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#23902 I am really curious where you found the stats for the employment rates of LLM grads. Are you a insider? Do you have stats for other schools? Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:48:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#23909 I am really curious where you found the stats for the employment rates of LLM grads. Are you a insider? Do you have stats for other schools? Kind of. This information is what LLM students of the year 2005-2006 were told by NYU Career Service. Unfortunately, I do not know what was the employment rate for LLM students graduated in 2006. I also do not know what are the figures for LLMs at other Law Schools. In case I have updated information with regard to NYU LLM 2006 class, I will keep you posted. Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:54:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#23942 I´ve got some data regarding the employment of international students in the US: - In 2005, NYU had 265 students registered with the Office of Career Services. 185 participated in the job fair, and 61 secured positions in the US (24 got internships, 21 permanent positions and 16 were non-specified). Total = 61. I have no data regarding the students that secured positions in their home country (most likely scenario if you are European), but what I´ve seen around is that the Belgians, French and Germans are golden - they had more 15 interviews in the job fair last week! Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:07:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#23943 I´ve got some data regarding the employment of international students in the US: - In 2005, NYU had 265 students registered with the Office of Career Services. 185 participated in the job fair, and 61 secured positions in the US (24 got internships, 21 permanent positions and 16 were non-specified). Total = 61. I have no data regarding the students that secured positions in their home country (most likely scenario if you are European), but what I´ve seen around is that the Belgians, French and Germans are golden - they had more 15 interviews in the job fair last week! Thanks ivan, these figures are very useful. This is also in line with information I posted. According to my information 4% of the LLM class 2005 secured permanent positions at NYC law firms. Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:23:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#23953 I just want to add one thing. The majority of those LLMs who got a permanent employment from NYC law firms are from LLM in Taxation. The law firms are very interested in them, and less interested in LLMs from other streams. I have actually seen the NYU LLM 2005-06 book which was circulated among LLM students one month ago. It provided for the names of each LLM student and where he/she is currently working. I do not remember the exact figures now, but it was like 4-5 LLMs in total from International Legal Studies, General Legal Studies and Corporation Law got the jobs at law firms, whereas it was about 10-15 from LLM in Taxation class who got the job in top law firms. These figures are rough, since I have not this book with me, but my impression after I saw it was like "upps... really not to many chances for those who are not in LLM in Taxation". Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:19:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#24005 Interesting... but I had a different opinion about this issue. I think we may talk about 4 different scenarios: 1) If you are American and you are enrolled in the Tax LL.M; 2) If you are an international student and you are inrolled in the Tax/ International Tax LL.M; 3) If you are an international student and you are in the Corporate Law program (or in the General Studies but taking courses on Corporate Law); and 4) You are an international student and you are studying something else (public interest law, litigation, international legal studies). 1 and 2 have certain advantages (although 1 is by far the best): apart from the January job fair, they have on-campus interviews on Fall and Spring, and a job fair in DC in February. Regarding the international tax students, it is indeed true that they have more opportunities, but it does not mean that they will land a job in a Big Law Firm. Some do (from last year, I know people who accepted internships and permanent positions, and they say that everybody who wanted to stay here in the US managed to do so), and some accept offers from Big 4 companies. Ok, Big 4 does not pay 160K but it is still a good option. I think the ones in 3 are in a great position to secure jobs here, depending on their country of origin. Actually, the international students in the Tax/ ITax LL.M usually say that if they were Corporate lawyers, it would be much easier to find a job here... Maybe we say that because the grass is always greener on the other side, but sometimes I agree with that. Last year, almost all of the Latin Americans in the Corporate program landed jobs in NY because that was what the firms needed. The rumor is that this year is the year of the Asians. Unfortunately, it is still too early to say whether it is true or not. And then there is 4. Guys in scenario 4 may have a hard time looking for a job here, but I guess (specially if they are Europeans) they may secure great jobs in their home countries. It´s funny, isn´t it? You say the Tax guys are the top dogs and I (a tax lawyer myself) think the Corporate guys are in a best position... Thu, 01 Feb 2007 22:10:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#24017 hello I'm a french student in Master 2 international lawyer in France (Toulouse) and I want to make an LLM in international business law in NYU. How much does the year cost for a french student ? Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:27:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#24092 hello I'm a french student in Master 2 international lawyer in France (Toulouse) and I want to make an LLM in international business law in NYU. How much does the year cost for a french student ? Hi, US 40,000 for a year + approx. US 22,000 of living expenses. http://www.nyu.edu/bursar/tuition.fees/rates.06/springfall.pr.tuitionLw.html Unlike, UK institutions NYU has no discounds for EU students. Cheers, New Y:o)rker Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:52:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#24231 It´s funny, isn´t it? You say the Tax guys are the top dogs and I (a tax lawyer myself) think the Corporate guys are in a best position... Hi, ivan. Just wanna add. I was told yesterday that all Tax LLMs (not americans) who studied at NYU last year and wanted to stay in New York landed a job their the last fall. Regards New Y:o)rker Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:46:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#24251 I applied to the Trade Regulation program. My interest lies mainly in international trade laws, and so ive applied to NYU, Penn, Mich, Cornell and Harvard. I know, most would say georgetown, but i guess it didnt suit my purpose! Any thoughts on the future with an LLM in international trade? Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:33:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#24269 It´s funny, isn´t it? You say the Tax guys are the top dogs and I (a tax lawyer myself) think the Corporate guys are in a best position... Hi, ivan. Just wanna add. I was told yesterday that all Tax LLMs (not americans) who studied at NYU last year and wanted to stay in New York landed a job their the last fall. Regards New Y:o)rker Hi New Yorker, Just to tell you that I heard the same thing. Actually, I know a bunch of the Tax and International Tax graduates from last year´s class, and they told me that whoever wanted to stay, managed to stay. However, it is also true that some of them had to wait until April to secure a job here. Cheers Ivan Sat, 17 Feb 2007 00:18:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#24625 Hi everyone, Yesterday I participated in a meeting organized by the Hauser Global Law Program whose purpose was to gather the opinions of some international LLMs about the orientation week, LLM program, etc. I asked them if it was true that they would make their decisions public on 1 April (my point was that it would generate time constraints with regard to the visa application process) and the answer was that the decisions will probably be made public before that date. Therefore, check regularly your e-mail account - you may have a surprise... Sat, 17 Feb 2007 01:32:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#24626 do you know if they send emails to domestic applicants as well? or just the international students? thanks! Hi everyone, Yesterday I participated in a meeting organized by the Hauser Global Law Program whose purpose was to gather the opinions of some international LLMs about the orientation week, LLM program, etc. I asked them if it was true that they would make their decisions public on 1 April (my point was that it would generate time constraints with regard to the visa application process) and the answer was that the decisions will probably be made public before that date. Therefore, check regularly your e-mail account - you may have a surprise... Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:39:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25227 Hi guys, Just got my letter of admission from NYU today! Greetings from Belgium, El Duderino Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:59:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25228 Congratulations. Was it a letter or an e-mail? Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:06:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25229 I hope you are not cracking jokes to make us panick! Surely, it should be a big surprise that april 1 has been brought forward to march 1. Any other person with similar news? Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:15:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25230 El Duderino, congratulations on your acceptance! When did you apply? And which university are you from? Thanks! Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:02:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25234 Hi Isabelle, I applied in mid-November (about the 20th) for the LL.M. International Legal Studies. Currently I'm in my last year of law at the Free University of Brussels. Greets, El Duderino Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:03:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25244 Hey, I got mine this morning too. Was sent 21 February by UPS. I applied in late November. No scholarship, though, except for the possibility of applying for the 10 grand award. Hm... Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:26:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25246 Hey, I got mine this morning too. Was sent 21 February by UPS. I applied in late November. No scholarship, though, except for the possibility of applying for the 10 grand award. Hm... CONGRATULATIONS. ONE QUESTION TO ALL ADMITTED -- DID YOU APPLY TO SINGAPORE AS WELL OR JUST TO NC. THANKS A LOT. Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:54:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25251 No, I didn't apply to Singapore, just NY. Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:56:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25252 Congrats to all admitted! I'm wondering, to login to the admitted students area, is your ID number the same as the one you received when you sent in your application? (I'm holding out hope that I'm admitted, but haven't received a letter yet) Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:46:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25255 Same here, just NYC Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:02:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25256 First of all, congrats to all those who got in! According to their homepage, you can log in as follows: User Name If you are a Graduate (LL.M. or J.S.D.) applicant with no Social Security Number, your user name is the NYU School of Law-assigned Admissions Identification Number you received with your letter of admission (typed with no hyphens or dashes: 888XXXXXX). Password Your default password is your birth date (typed: mm/dd/yyyy). After your first login, you will gain the ability to change your password. Congrats to all admitted! I'm wondering, to login to the admitted students area, is your ID number the same as the one you received when you sent in your application? Now all you need to know is whether the admissions number matches that of your application, and anyone should be able to take a shot. Haven't tried it (still waiting for a letter myself) - good luck and let us know! (I'm holding out hope that I'm admitted, but haven't received a letter yet) Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:23:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25259 do they email rejects? Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:36:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25262 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:43:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25263 What kind of deadlines have they set for (1) accepting their admissions offer and (2) any scholarships they have given out? Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:43:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25264 First of all, congrats to all those who got in! According to their homepage, you can log in as follows: User Name If you are a Graduate (LL.M. or J.S.D.) applicant with no Social Security Number, your user name is the NYU School of Law-assigned Admissions Identification Number you received with your letter of admission (typed with no hyphens or dashes: 888XXXXXX). Password Your default password is your birth date (typed: mm/dd/yyyy). After your first login, you will gain the ability to change your password. Yes, but I'm wondering if this number is the same as the one that you received when you applied. It's a number similarly beginning with 888xxxxxxx. If you applied you can still view your application on the site. I'm wondering if someone who received an acceptance letter today can verify if this is the same number. That way those of us who are still in the dark can beat the post by logging in with our own numbers and our birth dates if we have applied. I'm actually hoping it's a different number, because mine won't work! Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:13:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25267 Dear all, It looks like NYU has started to send admission letters. After I read the posts this morning, I went (actually ran) to the reception in my house. Got admission letter to NYU via UPS today. No e-mail prior to this. I am from Russia. Regards, New Y:o)rker Congrats! Any scholarships? Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:15:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25299 can someone who got admitted answer ciunas question regarding the ID-number to log in? Many thx! Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:17:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25300 First of all, congrats to all those who got in! According to their homepage, you can log in as follows: User Name If you are a Graduate (LL.M. or J.S.D.) applicant with no Social Security Number, your user name is the NYU School of Law-assigned Admissions Identification Number you received with your letter of admission (typed with no hyphens or dashes: 888XXXXXX). Password Your default password is your birth date (typed: mm/dd/yyyy). After your first login, you will gain the ability to change your password. Yes, but I'm wondering if this number is the same as the one that you received when you applied. It's a number similarly beginning with 888xxxxxxx. If you applied you can still view your application on the site. I'm wondering if someone who received an acceptance letter today can verify if this is the same number. That way those of us who are still in the dark can beat the post by logging in with our own numbers and our birth dates if we have applied. I'm actually hoping it's a different number, because mine won't work! Would be nice if someone could answer this question. Thanks! Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:26:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25301 etzmolch, did u try to log in with ur application ID as well? mine didnt work... Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:46:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25302 etzmolch, did u try to log in with ur application ID as well? mine didnt work... Yes. It doesn't work. Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:52:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25303 Mine doesn't work either. Since so far no one's seems to have worked, let's hope it's a good sign. Hey, a long as we're not rejected, there's still hope, right? :-) Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:53:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25305 Mine doesn't work either. Since so far no one's seems to have worked, let's hope it's a good sign. Hey, a long as we're not rejected, there's still hope, right? :-) ;-) Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:58:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25307 My guess is that its a different number as well. Or they havent decided on our file yet... trying to be optimistic, but the uncertainty sucks!! Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:56:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25309 My acceptance packet said that the site wouldn't be up and running for us until March. Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:04:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25310 Thanks! Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:19:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25312 Does it imply that applicants who have not received the admitted package are out? Which field do the admitted applicants major in? General study or other? By the way, congratulation to all admitted to NYU. Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:35:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25313 Just to reiterate my earlier post: What kind of deadlines have they set for (1) accepting their admissions offer and (2) any scholarships they have given out? I am currently out of town and unable to check my mail. Although I'm not an optomistic person, I just want to make sure the school has given sufficient time to respond in case a letter is sitting in my mailbox. Much appreciated. Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:37:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25314 I go my acceptance from NYU about two weeks ago and they told me I have until May 1 to accept. So you should have plenty of time. Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:38:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25315 The deadline for acceptance is March 9th!!!! Also, they have stated that the admitted students website will be active from Mid March. Just to clarify my letter is dated Feb 26th (some else on this post had theirs dated Feb 21st) - I am not sure what to make of this, but it is possible that they are sending letters in batches. All the best to everyone waiting. Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:43:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25316 Mine was dated Feb. 12th. Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:05:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25318 NIrvana! Many congratulations on the Hauser! That is awesome! Can you tell us a little bit about your background! Where are you from? Very curious as the Hauser is a dream to many people... including myself. Regards Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:08:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25319 Hi, just sent you a PM :) Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:20:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25338 Admissions offers need to be accepted by May 1. The scholarships will be awarded on a first-come, first-served basis. And the packets were sent by mail [no emails] Just to reiterate my earlier post: What kind of deadlines have they set for (1) accepting their admissions offer and (2) any scholarships they have given out? I am currently out of town and unable to check my mail. Although I'm not an optomistic person, I just want to make sure the school has given sufficient time to respond in case a letter is sitting in my mailbox. Much appreciated. Thu, 01 Mar 2007 09:51:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25349 FYI: Having questioned some of the business lawyers in leading firms in France (having done an LLM themselves, or recruiting LLM students in NY jobfairs), it appears that they do not make a distinction between LLM students from CLS and those from NYU at all. To them, CLS used to be better than NYU, but it's no longer the case today. So under the conditions offered to me by NYU (Vanderbilt + research associate position), I should not hesitate. Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:05:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25352 I am waiting for NYU too. Congratulations flor every admitted one. And bless for my self! Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:48:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25363 Amyonland, I'am waiting too... There is a rush of admission letters from NY and CLS ) But I still have none, nor good, nor bad... Although, "the chase is better than the catch" probably... ))) Good luck to everyone, nerves of steel )) Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:20:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25370 Hi,Aleixei, It is really a hard time! I did not apply cls, because it requires work experience, but I have none. I had been accepted by Cardozo and U of Washington(settle), and do not know how to make my decision between them. If NYU admits me, it would not be a problem any more! Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:38:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25373 Yes, amyonland, I have 3 and a half years of experience in legal consulting and litigation and I applied to CLS. Unfortunately, I can't help you to make decision between those U. I know nothing about them... ) My advice is apparent - examine it all precisely, different sources. For instance, try some prominent US law firms... search for the graduates of those Universities. As well, it's worth finding out carrier opportunities, job fairs and publications... everything you could find is helpful. Anyway, I am sure you already know it all. Good luck to you ) Alexei. Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:47:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25427 Hi All, I received a letter of acceptance from NYU today as well. I did not apply to the NYU@NUS programme. Was awarded the Deans Award..waiver of USD 10,000 + proposal for research assistant Fri, 02 Mar 2007 04:48:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25488 Is the NYU admission rolling, as in do people who applied earlier find out ealier? I applied in the last few days, for NYU and NYU-NUS and haven't heard anything on either. Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:58:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25501 Hey matcauthon, how could you apply in the last few days? Deadline for NYU was Dec 1, no? I applied Dec.1, received complete notification mid-Dec. and havent received any mail yet - my friend got the complete notification much later and received a letter yesterday, so I dont think that people who applied earlier find out earlier... Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:42:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25512 Figaro, apologies, I meant last few days prior to December 1. Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:56:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25513 oh, i see. I also applied last minute... Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:17:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25517 Figaro, I have no answer as well... But I guess we still have chances as we never know what is happening at the admissions committee at the moment. Not only how they choose, but how they mail admission packages? I consider it's not possible to mail 450 (as for NY) at once or even in two days. May be partially... first part is gone. We can only guess now, but as long as we have no rejections, we still have chances, decreasing day by day...( Let's keep in touch. Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:46:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25523 I think so too. Maybe they sent out their first batch and will send out the second one soon. However, chances of getting a scholarhip is low i guess but other than that, being admitted is still very possible - personally, i dont know anybody who got rejected by NYU... Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:56:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25524 I received my ups package on March 1! Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:26:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25528 Yes, figaro, the only thing that encourages now is the abscence of rejections. Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:02:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25532 Patience is not my strength!! Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:14:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25535 I understand that well ))) It's hard time. Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:15:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25536 I have 2 friends who received their admission letter from NYU by ups today in Paris, without any scholarship. :) good luck, and a little bit more of patience. Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:22:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25538 merci! Je vais voir... keyser_s: are you going to accept the vanderbilt scholarship or do you prefer to wait for top3 schools? Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:41:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25541 Спасибо... It raises hopes... Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:44:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25542 i would wait for HLS 's answer. Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:27:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25549 Is there anyone who have been admitted to NYU corporation law LL.M and advanced certificate program? Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:43:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25550 thats actually a good question. Did NYU send out admission letters only to General Studies Applicants? although I dont think that is the case. somebody said that he applied for the tax program and also got a letter? What program did you apply for Alexei? Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:47:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25551 Очень жду!! Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:07:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25554 Ты откуда русский знаешь? ) I applied to the General studies program. Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:10:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25555 Is there anyone who has been admitted to the LL.M. in (international) Taxation? Thanks! Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:42:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25559 Is there anyone who has been admitted to the LL.M. in (international) Taxation? Thanks! I got my offer of ITP on March 1. Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:57:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25563 Pancake, thanks for your quick reply. When did you apply? And where are you from? Thanks. Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:02:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25564 i would wait for HLS 's answer. What would you choose then? Fri, 02 Mar 2007 23:07:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25600 Is the NYU admission rolling, as in do people who applied earlier find out ealier? I applied in the last few days, for NYU and NYU-NUS and haven't heard anything on either. hey matcauthon I also applied in the last few days before Dec 1 and received the 'application complete' notification mid Jan, and received acceptence letter 2 days back. So i guess it depends on the pile in which ur application ends up and as they make decisions, they will probably let you know. Fri, 02 Mar 2007 23:59:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25609 I applied for the Corporation Law Program too. No answer yet. I'm a Russian citizen currently in the U.S., so maybe I'll receive the answer later. Sat, 03 Mar 2007 00:18:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25612 Savece, Maybe it is just a coincidence, but none of the international applicants who are living in US seems to have received an answer yet. I am including me, people from the forum and my friends... By the way, if there is someone living in US who has received the mail, please tell us! Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:43:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25615 after looking again at the website, NYU says it has untill april 1 to make decisions on foreign app;s and june for domestic, so they may be tring to get the foreign apps out of the way first. Just a thought Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:47:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25616 good if so. though don't want to be out of the way. prefer staying in their way:) till april 1? no problem! Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:51:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25638 I applied for the Corporation Law LLM as well. Must be the last on their list then! Hopefully... Sat, 03 Mar 2007 13:51:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25642 I applied to the program foucing on Trade Regulation. Seems no admission to this Program? Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:00:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25646 Pancake, thanks for your quick reply. When did you apply? And where are you from? Thanks. I applied just one day before the deadline and am from China. Where are you from, btw? Sat, 03 Mar 2007 19:10:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25658 Does anyone know how much is the tuition at NYU? I tryed, but couldn't find this information on the website. Sat, 03 Mar 2007 19:17:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25659 Does anyone know how much is the tuition at NYU? I tryed, but couldn't find this information on the website. For 2006/2007 ist was $38,980. http://www.law.nyu.edu/depts/financialaid/budget/entering.html Sat, 03 Mar 2007 20:17:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25665 I'm from Panama and applied for the Corporation Law program & Advanced Certificate. I got my acceptance package yesterday (Friday), the letter is dated Feb. 26 but it seems that they put my mailing address and not the home address needed to have it delivered by courier, so it took a while longer. No scholarships :P But getting in is good enough... I got the registration materials for the Advanced Certificate at Stern, I'm assuming that means I can take the program if I apply... anyone else got that as well? Sun, 04 Mar 2007 08:51:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/23779/last#25697 Hi Pty K, Congrats! It should be included in all admitted package, I guess.