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sushanthmurthy

Joined: 13 Jun 2007
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NYU@NUS
Thu Jun 14, 2007 03:59 PM
I need help..could any1 plz let me know what are the average costs of the LLM programme NYU@NUS? Also most important if der are placement opportunities in the US or Singapore......Is it worth its value?
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SAM99

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Thu Jun 21, 2007 01:49 PM
average cost of NYU@NUS program (including living expenses) is $52.000. It is certainly worth paying that money, although most of students of first five intakes will receive considerable financial aid covering mainly tuition costs. For instance majority of students of inaugural class received 35.000 each. NYU@NUS graduates will get two separate degrees from NYU law school and from NUS law faculty. Guys, as a student of NYU@NUS program I strongly recommend applying for it.

[Edited 21 Jun 2007 by SAM99]

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indian lawyer

Joined: 21 Jan 2007
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Thu Jun 21, 2007 03:52 PM
Hi Sushant...I am a part of inaugaral batch of the NYU@NUS program.It has been almost 2 monts now since the course started and it has been truly amazing.
The professors have been really good and it is truly a very good experience.About placements, we have a very strong career services unit at NYU and you can be rest assured that you would find yourself a job in Asia.We are having our job fair for the NYU@NUS program sometime in October and I would be able to give you a better picture about the placements then.Hope this helps.
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indian lawyer

Joined: 21 Jan 2007
Posts: 76
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Thu Jun 21, 2007 04:03 PM
www.nyulawglobal.org/graduateadmissions/masterofla…

Additionally u can view more information to get an idea about the program....and also to get an idea of the student expense budget.
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kitsrc

Joined: 23 Jun 2007
Posts: 4
NYU@NUS
Sun Jun 24, 2007 03:34 PM
hello guys....another query from India....I am currently into gathering information about llm programs & its job prospectives....I have received quite a positive feedbacks on NYU...bt wht I really like to know abt the job prospect after passing out ....wht sorta job orientations we gt after passing out of d institution...hoping for response from d guys at the NYU itself...
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indian lawyer

Joined: 21 Jan 2007
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Mon Jun 25, 2007 05:34 AM
Hi...If you are talking about the actual NYU at Newyork Program...then you should probably post the query in the NYU form which you can find under "U.S".
This program is the NYU@ NUS double LLM program in Singapore where at the end of 10 months one walks away with 2 LLMs.This is the inaugaral year of this program and we can expect the job opportunities to be very good considering the unique nature of the program.
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kitsrc

Joined: 23 Jun 2007
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NYU@NUS
Tue Jun 26, 2007 02:04 PM
hey! thnx a lot for d quick response....am asking abt nyu@nus program....can u kindly elaborate on the dual llm degree and the job prospect....tht wld be of immense help...
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indian lawyer

Joined: 21 Jan 2007
Posts: 76
NYU@NUS
Thu Jun 28, 2007 05:19 PM
Sure....u would wanna check the website which elaborates in detail abt the dual LLM program.I have posted the address of the website in my previouspost.
This is a very unique program and truly a global program as iot brings two top universities together and u get the double masters in the same time as you get ur single masters...which is 10 months.I am having a great time till now in the program.Great campus,great professors,great staff and very friendly batchmates.
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tara

Joined: 16 Oct 2006
Posts: 15
NYU@NUS
Tue Jul 10, 2007 06:24 AM
hi all!
I just came across the NYU@NUS LLM a few days ago and i find it very attractive. In the website it says the earlier u apply the better so was just wandering when the online application process starts. We have to apply straight to NYU, right? I can't seem to find a link to the application anywhere on the website. Does anyone evn have a copy of last year's application so that i can get an idea of what is required (e.g. number of references, any essays etc.)?

Also, if any current students are reasing this- what was the rough average standard of the students admitted? Did everyone have first class LL.B's? High 2 :1 s?

And about the scholarshipe, do we have to apply for the ones mentioned on the website, or do students get them automatically due to the LLM being newly introduced.

The website is not that helpful. So any advice would be much appreciated. :)
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indian lawyer

Joined: 21 Jan 2007
Posts: 76
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Tue Jul 10, 2007 06:44 AM
Hi tara....You have to apply to NYU...yes.The applications would come out in early September or late August.It is an online application.The details on the number of references are available on the website..its usually one at NYU but you may submit two.It has to be submitted along with the Letter of Recommendation form which can be found here www.nyulawglobal.org/graduateadmissions/documents/…
Your transcripts have to be submitted along with the Transcript request form which can be found herewww.nyulawglobal.org/graduateadmissions/documents/…
The admission and application information can be found here www.nyulawglobal.org/graduateadmissions/documents/…
The essays are required only if you apply to the Hauser global scholarship-NYU at new york and the Singapura Scholarship-Singapore.These are basically full scholarships and the details of the essays required can be on the scholarship link in the NYU website.www.nyulawglobal.org/graduateadmissions/scholarshi…
There are 42 students in the current batch and they might increase the strength of the batch depending on the strength of the application pool.Most of them have good academis scores and some with very good experience.having said that there are freshers as well.So once cannot pinpoint and say what is important as it basically depends on how strong the application pool is when u apply.Having good scores cannot definitely be a negative.Students are considered automatically for the scholaships except the Singapura scholarship.The Singapura which is a full scholarship requires some essays to be written and you have to indicate on the application that you do want to apply for that scholarship.
I am afraid that I do not have a copy of the application but you should keep checking this page and see whether the online application is out..
www.nyulawglobal.org/graduateadmissions/applicatio…
The NYU website is filled with information,u might just have to look at the right places I guess.
The first year batch is a mix of Experience , fresh grads, people with 1-2 years if experience.I am a current student and hope this information helps.
goodluck!
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indian lawyer

Joined: 21 Jan 2007
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Tue Jul 10, 2007 06:46 AM
Pardon me for the typos...but I hope you can get what I mean at the places where the typos appear.:-)
there are just too many to correct.Sorry about that
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indian lawyer

Joined: 21 Jan 2007
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NYU@NUS
Tue Jul 10, 2007 07:11 AM
i think a Personal Statement and a Resume may be required along with the application anyway whether or not you apply for a scholarship.Kindly go through the link that I have pasted in the previous post.
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tara

Joined: 16 Oct 2006
Posts: 15
NYU@NUS
Tue Jul 10, 2007 07:51 AM
thanks alot indian lawyer.

you're right about the website, i just didn't look at the right places. thanks for all the links.

Since you are a current student, could you tell me something about the program- as in: do you enjoy it? Is there alot of work with no free time? What's it like living in Singapore- are u in collge accomodation?
And also, i did a UK LLB so i have little knowledge of US or s'pore law- is it difficult to adjust? Or are the subjects based on international law rather than on a specific local jurisdiction?

Sorry for all the questions. Just want to figure out whether NYU@NUS is for me. I got into NUS for undergrad studies, but decided against it, so just want to be sure before i try for graduate school. Thanks again.
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indian lawyer

Joined: 21 Jan 2007
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Tue Jul 10, 2007 01:11 PM
No problem...I understand ur anxiety and u can ask as many questions as u want and I will try to answer them.
I will answer ur questions in the same order.
1.I love this course,I and am sure everyone of us here are having a wonderful time.Amazing professors,excellent staff from both NYU and NUS who are always willing to help you.
2.its not all work n no play.Most of us have already done some travelling.The workload is very hectic considering the fact that it is a DOuble LLM program.However it does not consume all the time.We do party and have our fun...:-)
3.I rented out an apartment here and I am sharing it with another person.There is no university accomodation,there are a few university recommended accomodations around campus.Most of us have rented out an apartment and travelling is never a problem as Singapore is very well connected by buses.
4.I like SIngapore,its like home away from home for me as it is a cluster of many cultures and since I am from the South of India,I find this place absolutely fascinating.
5.I did my LLB from India which is also a common law jurisdiction.Singapore is also a common law country.The NYU LLM primarily concentrates on US based law for their teaching but they do not deal with the statues per se but with the policies as such and you must be aware that there is a big influence of Common law in the US
6.There are two specialisations which u can take in the NYU LLM which is HUman rights and Business laws.There is also a general LLM.So there are a wide variety of courses to choose from and yes there are International law courses as well.
7.The NUS LLM has as many as 5-6 specialisations including a general LLM and there is one specialisation in International and Comparitive laws as well.
So what we do here is not about statues but the policies and theories which surround those statutes.So you dont have to worry about being a UK LLB.
I would definitely recommend this program not because of any personal bias but because it is worth it!
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tara

Joined: 16 Oct 2006
Posts: 15
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 01:54 PM
Hello again. Another question...
This is more on Singapore law in general rather than the NYU@NUS program.

I was going through the Singapore Law Society pages and discovered that my LLB is not recognised under its Rules so i can;t ever practice in Singapore. Is it still possible to get a (good) law related job in singapore even without being a singapore qualified advocate/solicitor? Will the LLM help?

And is there any (new) news as to whether the NYU@NUS llm is recognised for the purposes of the NYU bar? The website says 'not yet'- any ideas whether this is likely (i figure u might have the inside scoop, since u meet NYU lecturers).





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Humber

Joined: 01 Feb 2007
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 03:23 PM
Do you think this programme would be unsuitable for a student who wants to work in the field of international law? I will apply to HLS, Yale, CLS, NYU and some european schools as well, but I have seen that there are many good int law scholars (i.e Simon Chesterman) at the NYU@NSU llm. I am not particularly interested in becoming a business lawyer in Asia - is this still a programme I should go for?

[Edited 20 Jul 2007 by Humber]

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indian lawyer

Joined: 21 Jan 2007
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 04:29 PM
Hi Humber. Indeed!
I would say that there are a substantial number of students here who have a mind set like you. Some of my batchmates are here precisely for International Law and HUman rights.
There are some students who dont have a concentration and do a general LLM .
Like you can see Prof.Chesterman is the Director of this program and he would also be teaching in the semester begining in August as well.He would be teaching "State Building & Administration" and a course on the United Nations.
There are many other professors who are here from NY who teach courses relating to International Law, European Union law,US COnstitutional Law, Law & Political Science,International Human Rights and the like.
What I have stated above are just some of the courses on offer , there are many others as well.
So this program is not just intended for Business lawyers.
When you are doing the NUS LLM ,they have a specific concentration in "International & Comparitive laws".So there are courses on offer there are as well.Not only can you choose a concentration under the NYU LLM, you can do so under the NUS LLM as well. So thats another advantage of this double LLM program.
I hope it answers your question.If you need more clarification, I would be happy to help you.
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indian lawyer

Joined: 21 Jan 2007
Posts: 76
NYU@NUS
Fri Jul 20, 2007 04:37 PM
Hi Tara.
Yes you are right about being eligible to take the bar exam and practise here.It depends a lot on the LLB degree.However you dont have to worry about that,almost the entire bunch of the LLM students here are from foriegn countries.They have a good chance of finding a job here in Singapore and Asia for that matter. Admission to the bar is never a deterent.Thats with respect to the bar admission in Singapore.They get recruited as legal executives or foriegn legal consultants.
With the NYU LLM, the students have to petition the NY court on an individual basis and those from common law countries will not have a problem at all.Those from the Civil law countries will just have to show that they have the requisites and that their courses are no different from the ones offered in NY.
NYU would also help you in drafting this petition.Thats what we have been told and appearing for the bar in your case should not be a problem as your LLB is from a common law country.Dont worry on that front.
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Humber

Joined: 01 Feb 2007
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Sat Jul 21, 2007 03:31 PM
Indian Lawyer: Many thanks for your quick reply. I shall apply for the programme then.
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ozman

Joined: 26 Jul 2007
Posts: 57
NYU@NUS
Fri Jul 27, 2007 03:21 AM
hi Indian lawyer, i have been reading your posts and well you seem to be very welcome, which is of course always welcome. Well i am from Pakistan, i did my LLB from the University of London(External Programme), basically distance learning, recently i have completed my BVC(which is a post graduate diploma) from London, which entitles one to become a member of the England and Wales Bar. I have been following the NYU@NUS programme, and to be honest i really am very interested. However i already have a distance learning degree and well the NYU programme in Singapore, no matter how i think about it does seem to be something similar, what do you think. I am talking from an employer's point of view, there has got to be some difference while studying in NY and in Singapore. Further could you also kindly tell me when to apply for this course, if i want to apply for 2008, and how do you rate my chances as you are a current student, of actually getting into the programme.
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indian lawyer

Joined: 21 Jan 2007
Posts: 76
NYU@NUS
Fri Jul 27, 2007 04:01 AM
Hi Ozman.I am not sure that I understtod the first part of your question.U think the NYU@NUS program is similar to what? To a distance learning degree?
The applications are usually out in September.You must be monitoring the law school website constantly and I have posted the relevant links and the previous posts and you can find them there.
Thats one thing about admissions,you never know what is good enough for a person to get in as you dont know what the admission committee is looking for.I would say academic credentials and grades are of primary importance,ur work ex if any,co curricular activites,other interests,SOP and the like will be the second criteria.Most of them have very good academic credentials and a combination of decent academic credentials and some prior work experience.
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ozman

Joined: 26 Jul 2007
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Fri Jul 27, 2007 02:53 PM
yes that is exactly what i meant, is this similar to a distance learning degree? and could you please point out the prospects of securing a position in a good law firm(like a US or Uk firm which has offices in Asia, i am asking this as you are a current student and i feel you would be in a good position to answer this question). Well i am fresh graduate, the course starts in may, and i will be working from august(this year) to april next year, so i dont think i can put in my work experience in the application. My extra-curriculars are basically in sports, however my grades are decent and they are no way special, and i hope i can get in, ill keep my fingers crossed, if you could please answer my questions at the beginning of this post
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indian lawyer

Joined: 21 Jan 2007
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Fri Jul 27, 2007 04:25 PM
No.Its definitely not a distance learning program.It is an intense full time program and there is no distance learning possibility with NYU@ NUS.This is the inaugaral batch and if you had gone through my other posts with respect to the job opportunities,I had mentioned that our job fair is in October and we expect it to be a good one.Most of the firms which are expected to attend this fair are eithe US firms having offices in asia and there is the possibility of UK firms as well.However things should get clear in October-november.
The admissions committee,I suppose would take into consideration that you would have 8 months of work experience before you start here,so you can mention that as your work ex in ur application.I do feel sports do give a different picture of you and I would encourage you to mention any significant achievements.
Decent grades,some experience with some extra curriculars.I would say you have a decent chance.These admission decisions are never predictable.I think it depends to a large extent on the application pool for a particular your.All the best for your application.
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ozman

Joined: 26 Jul 2007
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Fri Jul 27, 2007 06:18 PM
well thanks mate... this does clear things up a gr8 deal... ill stay in touch with u... as i do further research and ultimately make a decision,
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priestlaw

Joined: 15 Mar 2007
Posts: 9
NYU@NUS
Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:49 PM
Hi indianlawyer,

I'm interested in applying for this programme. Could you please tell me more about the sutdent environment in the NYU@NUS? I often hear stories that the big number of students in the traditional NYU@NYC interferes in the quality and reputation of the course. Can you tell how many students were accepted with you and how is the school managing to deal with this amount?
Another question is about the nationality of students. Did you notice any bias in favor of applicants who have experience/interest in Asian issues? Do you think any personal statement emphasizing this point would count positively?

thanks in advance
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