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jokimon

Joined: 11 Jul 2007
Posts: 1
Bad Grades Also....
Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:33 PM
I'm interested in getting an LLM in Tax and have targeted schools on the West Coast, like UCLA, USC, USD, and Loyola. I'm currently attending a law school ranked around 30 by US News. To be blunt I have bad grades. My GPA is at a 2.8ish which basically means I'm in the bottom half of my class. I haven't been able to find much information on how stringent the admissions standards are for LLM programs. Can someone give me some insight on what my chances are of getting into these schools? Also, is there some resource I could refer to in order to get a good idea of how competitve admission into Tax LLM programs are?

Another question, how important is an LLM in Tax when it comes to practicing Tax Law?

Any answers are much appreciated!
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taxllm

Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Posts: 25
UCLA Tax ??
Fri Jul 13, 2007 02:50 AM
I think the general rule is, regardless of class rank, there's usually a 3.0 cutoff if youre applying out of law school.

Are you sure UCLA has a tax program? I think they only offer a specialization, and the focus is corp transactions and related tax consequences. If it is a new tax program it is really REALLY new because they weren't even ranked in this years USN&WR for 'tax programs.'

I'm almost certain USC doesnt have a tax program for domestic students.

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setho

Joined: 19 Mar 2007
Posts: 109
UCLA Tax ??
Fri Jul 13, 2007 05:16 AM
I have personally never heard anything about a 3.0 cutoff. The schools you mentioned are not very highly ranked for tax LLMs. Perhaps you can call them and ask about grades. It can never hurt to apply.
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taxllm

Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Posts: 25
UCLA Tax ??
Fri Jul 13, 2007 06:30 AM
Eh, maybe it's just a west coast thing. That's just the rule of thumb that I heard from other classmates, but I've never seen it on this board.

I didn't mean to discourage applying. I mean an application is probably in the $50 to less than $100 area depending on where you apply, so what have you got to lose.
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rayban

Joined: 01 Jun 2008
Posts: 2
UCLA Tax ??
Mon Jun 02, 2008 01:29 PM
I know USC does set a quasi-minimum GPA at 3.0, as stipulated on their website.
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LinkedS

Joined: 24 Feb 2008
Posts: 78
UCLA Tax ??
Wed Jun 04, 2008 02:58 AM
I think the general rule is, regardless of class rank, there's usually a 3.0 cutoff if youre applying out of law school.



Absolutely incorrect. I know of at least four different people who have attended UF and Georgetown with Sub 3.0's

Now, 3 of the 4 had solid past tax work experience (interns, summer jobs, etc...nothing too fancy) and had taken 3-5 tax classes with good grades

But, there is absolutely no 3.0 cutoff line

Now, is it hard to get into those schools with a sub 3.0? Absolutely.....you would need an excellent resume with such a score.

But, it is not impossible as I myself got into several LLM Tax Schools with a sub 3.0
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goldmember

Joined: 03 Jun 2008
Posts: 3
UCLA Tax ??
Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:54 PM
good information
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histrion

Joined: 01 Jun 2008
Posts: 2
UCLA Tax ??
Fri Jun 06, 2008 04:07 AM
I've got a similar question. I have a 3.35/4.3 GPA and I'm wondering what law schools I could apply to with success? Top 10, top 20, top 30?

Thanks!
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andrewso2002

Joined: 13 Nov 2007
Posts: 7
TAX law or IP without prior experience...
Thu Sep 25, 2008 06:58 PM
Hi guys,
Does anyone know if somebody with no tax law background can get into a LLM tax program or IP fro that matter? I have the equivalent of a JD in business law from a french civil law country and more than a year of work experience in a law office here though...plus I'm about to complete a Masters in International relations in NY that I've backed with work experience at the UN headquarters.
The natural path for me would be to get into a international law program I know... but its too general to my opinion. to be competitive on the US legal market without a JD, i think we need to specialize in a field... what do you think?
Thanks
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