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anirudhs86

Joined: 12 Aug 2007
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Mon Aug 13, 2007 01:48 PM
How far is it advantageous to study law is US over UK for a law student of India?
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kris1984

Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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Mon Aug 13, 2007 07:57 PM
I would say being the US is a dis-advantage. It is a very unpleasant place to live!

Go to the UK is you can.
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anirudhs86

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 02:26 AM
thx for the idea, and what about scotland!!!!!
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kris1984

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 02:31 AM
I hear that University of Edinburgh is very good!
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Iowa

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 03:12 AM
I think it is unfair to say that the entire United States is a "very unpleasant" place to live. The nice thing about the country is that it is varied. Many different cultures in one country. I think there are good LLM programs in Boston, New Haven and New York especially, but I would not overlook more rural places, too, e.g., Wisconsin-Madison and Austin, Texas. Plus, the exchange rate is great right now, with the dollar being worth so little compared to the Euro or Pound.
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kris1984

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 03:23 AM
Racial profiling at the customs checkpoints, cumbersome visa requirements, Islamo-phobia directed towards anyone who looks middle-eastern (this includes Indians I'm afraid).

In sum, life for an Indian in London is much more pleasant and the degree just as respected. My advice would be not to get caught up in the myth of a US education.
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setho

Joined: 19 Mar 2007
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Tue Aug 14, 2007 05:45 AM
If you want to classify an entire country based on the actions of a few then you are no better than those you criticize.

[Edited 14 Aug 2007 by setho]
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kris1984

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 05:52 AM
You have got to be kidding...

The American TV network FOX has a new show called "Aliens in America", which is a comedy about a US family having a foreign exchange student who turns out to be a Muslim from Pakistan. In the preview, the wife - angry to have the Pakistani boy in her home - tells her husband that "if you order a coffee-maker and you get a toaster, you send it back".

Yeah, I highly recommend the US as a tolerant, civilized place to study law...
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setho

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 05:56 AM
America is a very large country, I would appreciate it if you would not judge all americans based on the actions of insensitive morons. People who use this message board seek to come to the United States to attend academic institutions. I would venture to say that the vast majority of people they will come into contact with at universities are not the sort of people you are describing.
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anirudhs86

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 07:39 AM
hi, i am an indian as you know it and i want to know should i or should i not pursue u.s.a. for llm, bcoz if it is disadvantageous to me, then i wil b at a loss by spendin so much of my money and not derivin any benefits out of it.
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kris1984

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 07:42 AM
Unless you are going to a top, top US school, then no, it is not worth the money. A degree from the UK is respected all over the world and surly in India as well. Plus, the flight is shorter and you can get good naan!! haha
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anirudhs86

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 07:48 AM
but as it is giving in the papers recently, its written that u.s.a. are givin more jobs for lawyers than the u.k. and it has become a money spinnin game for them
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kris1984

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 07:57 AM
Well, it depends where you want to work. If you want to work in the USA, then a degree from there might help you more than a degree from the UK. In Europe, both UK and USA degree are highly respected (this will, of course, depend on the University too).

If you want to work in India, you should think: "will people back home know this University?". If the answer is "No", then it is not worth the money. For example, everyone in India will know the University of London or Harvard University in the USA.

What you must watch out for with the USA is that they have a lot of smaller universities that do not have a world-wide reputation, so you would be wasting your money going to one of those.
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anirudhs86

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 08:00 AM
but if i want to work either in the U.K. or India and i get my LLM done from the UK, then what about it
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kris1984

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 08:02 AM
I think there are very few universities in the USA that will have a reputation in India. If you want to be 100% sure, then the University of London, Oxford, etc... are the best use of your money. People will know you have a good education just by the name.
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anirudhs86

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 08:05 AM
k, then overall it seems u.k. is better
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kris1984

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 08:11 AM
It is like comparing a product from Tata (U of London) to, for example Bosch (US uni.). Everyone in India will know the Tata product is good quality, but few will know about Bosch (which is a german company that makes expensive appliances) even if Bosch makes better stuff than Tata does. It doen't help you if no one knows the university.

So, yes, University of London would be my first choice in your situation.

What do you want to do your LLM on?
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anirudhs86

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 08:16 AM
i want to do my llm on law of arbitration or internatinol law or ipr
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kris1984

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 08:17 AM
Cool! I'm doing my LLM in International Law at Leiden University in the Netherlands.
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anirudhs86

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 08:25 AM
how is the studies there
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Lit

Joined: 24 Jul 2006
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Tue Aug 14, 2007 08:57 AM
Kris, thugh I appreciate your sense of humour in criticizing the States, and I think you raise valid points with regard to its racism as far as Islamophobia is concerned, I'm a bit baffled by the fact that you're going to Leiden? I'm not Indian and its just a presumption, but how well-known is Leiden to the rest of India? Isn't it a Bosch?(to use your phrase). Don't get me wrong, Leiden is a great institution and the Netherlands is probably less racist (though not without its share of problems in that regard), but why aren't you on your way to UoL, in line with your argument?
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kris1984

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 09:06 AM
Becuase I'm not Indian and don't plan on working in India any time soon...

In my future workplace - Europe - Leiden is as well known as any other big European university.

Kindly note that I did not suggest the poster apply to Leiden...
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anirudhs86

Joined: 12 Aug 2007
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Tue Aug 14, 2007 09:50 AM
k, as u people hav said ur view, finally the last question as i am stil gettin really confused, wat shuld i opt for, finally? n pls an honest answer n opinion
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Suzan

Joined: 16 Jul 2007
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Tue Aug 14, 2007 01:15 PM
If you want to work in USA or India, any particular reason then why you want to do your LL.M from UK?

You would be better off doing your LL.M from a tier I Law School from USA.
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anirudhs86

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 02:20 PM
but many are saying me that it's near impossible for me to get a job in u.s.a. as i hav done my LLB from India and just LLM won't help in the USA
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