http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358 en Application opens for LLM (Int'l Business Law) - taught in Singapore & Shanghai - LLM GUIDE Discussion Board Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:15:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#36358 Study for your LLM in two of Asia's great cities: applications are now open for the NUS LLM in International Business Law programme. This is a collaboration between the National University of Singapore (NUS) and the East China University of Political Science and Law (ECUPL) in Shanghai, China. The degree is awarded solely by NUS. Students will spend the first two months (August and September) at the NUS campus in Singapore, where they will read 2 to 3 subjects and undertake internships with leading law firms, government agencies or the courts. They will then spend seven months (October to April) at ECUPL's downtown Changning campus in Shanghai, where professors from both NUS and ECUPL will offer a total of 10 subjects. The programme provides a solid legal foundation in international business and financial transactions law. The cutting-edge subjects taught include comparative corporations law, banking and international payments, international taxation, comparative corporate governance, international commercial arbitration, international and comparative law of sale, international corporate finance, cross-border commercial transactions and Chinese intellectual property law. The programme lasts 10 months, requiring the study of 10 subjects in total, and is taught entirely in English by leading NUS and ECUPL faculty. The course is primarily targeted at students from outside Asia who desire a comprehensive English-language specialization in international business law, with a focus on emerging Asian markets such as China. It also provides students from non-common law backgrounds with an overview of common law principles relevant to international business and commerce. Finally, the course offers students a unique and unparalleled opportunity to live and study in two great Asian financial centres, Singapore and Shanghai. The current group of students comprises 44 highly motivated individuals from 12 countries, including China, India, Canada, Austria, Spain, Chile, Italy, Germany, Malaysia, Philippines and Turkey. The tuition fee is US$6,900 (or S$10,000, 4,800 Euros or RMB 50,000). Accommodation is available near or within both campuses in Singapore and Shanghai. Applications close 31 January 2008. For application materials, pre-requisites, course details and more information in English or Chinese, click on http://law.nus.edu.sg/prospective/postgrad/coursework/llm_ibl.htm. Enquiries may be sent to lawtankj@nus.edu.sg. Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:06:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#36379 Hi, I'm italian law graduate and I'm interested to the LL.M. in international business law but I saw that the deadline for application is 31 january 2008 and my IELTS score will be ready for 25-29 february 2008. What can I do? I hope I must not wait for the next LL.M. to apply.. Thank you Fedefra Mon, 05 Nov 2007 05:10:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#36395 Not a problem. You can submit your application form by 31 January 2008, and then send us the IELTS score later when you receive it. Alan Tan NUS Law Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:10:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#36501 Ok thank you, so I'll send my applcation form and then the IELTS score. What can I write in the form about the IELTS point? Then I wanted to know: 1) Is there a internship during the LL.M. in IBL? If yes is only in Singapore or also in Shanghai? 2) Are there possibility at the end of LL.M. to find a job related to what I studied? Because in Europe we often find this infomations directly from the students who have partecipated reading their experience on the University website. Thank you Best Regards Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:19:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#36695 1. Yes, there is an internship built into the programme, and it takes place in Singapore. The student can also seek to have internships in Shanghai after the completion of the course. 2. Yes, several students have found jobs in Singapore, Shanghai and their home countries after the course, pretty much related to international business law. Alan Tan NUS Law Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:57:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#36706 IBL students have amazing job prospectus in Asia. The coursework programme already includes a compulsory internship in Singapore. Further, if international students are interested for an attachment in Shanghai they must write to law firms in person. Top notch law firms particularly in Shanghai are very happy to receive such applications. However, if students are wishing to work in Singapore they may send there resumes to law firms. Alternatively, they may write to head hunters. Some of the recommended head hunters are LEGAL LABS, LAW RECRUIT, LAW ALLIANCE, HUGHES-CASTELL so on and so forth. Should you need further information feel free to write. My email address is amrinder_sidhu@rediffmail.com Will you all the best for your future endeavors. Regards Amrinder Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:49:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#36731 Thank you for your reply.. It was very clear!! Now I'm finishing my application for IBL and If I have other doubts I'll write you Bye Best Regards Fedefra Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:44:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#36830 Dear prospective applicants(students), I am Abhishek Mishra, a current academic year student of LL.M(IBL), NUS, Singapore. I am completing my second part of this program in Shanghai, China. I thought to participate on this forum and add some informations, from a student point of view. As I can understand the uncertainties that clouds our decisions to join an LL.M program; First and foremost, this program is a unique opportunity to learn and travel, in one go. I consider this as a rare opportunity for students. As a business lawyer one need to understand various legal system, we have an opportunity to study in two most prominent legal system of world, common law and civil law. I term this opportunity as live and learn. Further, most important is the course structure; course is designed in way which is relevant with our practical requirements, as lawyer, therefore serves the purpose of taking this course. Professors are authorities in their respective subjects and teach the class in a fashion that makes it interesting and learning. Lectures enables you to learn the application of law and not just knowledge of the law. In other words, students have a great opportunity to satisfy his/her intellectual hunger to learn and apply the law. Next issue that is warranted here must be the financial one. It is very subjective issue though, however, for those student who might have a tight budget, I must add something here, so that they can make a decision. Besides, the fee, and two months expenses that one will incur, the life in Shanghai, costs u as much as in any other city of Asia, of course depending on your life style. Its not at all expensive. And above all, the value addition that one get by obtaining this degree is invaluable, so taking a student loan is worth. NUS is a friendly place, staff and professors are caring and responsive to one's queries. Few words are desired here about the life in Shanghai. one of the most vibrant cities, with a great infrastructure and transportation. You can witness a good fusion of exotic and western culture. Chinese mates are great, cordial and caring. Language might be a problem, sometime,they will be very helpful, and wont let u feel uncomfortable. Jobs is the last but not least component of this blog, previous year recorded very good placement of last year students, both in China and Singapore. Candidly, in this regard i have very little to share, as I am also like you waiting for studies to complete and plunge into the world of job seekers. But prospects are great as business is booming, so business lawyers are bound to be in demand. If you have any further doubts, you can use my experiences that I have had so far...my email id is mishraabheeshek@hotmail.com I wish all the best to all the applicants. and hope to see them around. Best, A Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:25:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#38018 Hi there...as far as i'm aware, the course starts from July 2008 and the first 3 months are to be spent in singapore and the rest 7 at shanghai..am i correct here? anyone? Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:03:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#38023 yes you are correct. the first two months and a half are studied in Singapore and then you have the opportunity to join the internship program either in the Supreme Court or in the top Law Firms. Then, after a needed break, you continue in Shanghai. Eric Fri, 28 Dec 2007 10:06:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#38029 so provided my application does get through...for how long will i have to have to arrange accomodation in singapore? ny suggestions? Tue, 01 Jan 2008 14:02:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#38145 We stayed from July 12th until late September but NUS will inform you on time (if the information is not already on their website) how long you will stay in Singapore. Trust me, they are really organized and the information comes on time. Also the accommodation in the nearby hostel (Evans Lodge) is where the majority of the students stay. Is not easy to find a short term lease agreement in Singapore and is usually more expensive and inconvenient (if you do not like to wake up early) to find your own room elsewhere. Wed, 02 Jan 2008 06:47:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#38170 Tnx so much...its becoming clearer now....I really appreciate all the assistance... :) Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:46:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#38660 hi, i'm lea. i'm holding a bachelor degree in Business. To my knowledge, 1st degree is a MUST, but is there any other pathway for non-law degree students to apply for this course? years of experience in the Law industry? I'd be grateful for your reply. Wed, 16 Jan 2008 01:59:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#38689 Yes, that is correct. A prior law degree is needed. Why don't you send me your full c.v. and I will take a further look. Alan Tan NUS Law Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:33:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#42294 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:49:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#42912 hi everybody i sent my application form since january for the ibl llm and unfortunutaly i didn t receive anything yet i just want to know if it is normal and when we will know about it thanksssss Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:45:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#43373 I had contacted Alan with the same query. They are still reading and ranking the application- he said that the decisions will be released only by 31st of March, 2008. Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#43598 I can't wait any longer, I'm so impatient in waiting for the outcome of the application. I'm really interested in knowing what quota will be accepted into the IBL programm, how many fellows have applied and how many places are there to be filled... Wish you all the best with your applications! A Mon, 24 Mar 2008 07:56:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#43683 I am just wondering if I was offered an admission, is it feasible to ask for a deferral? P.S. I am applying for Corporate and Financial Services Law in academic year 2008-2009. Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:20:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#45164 I am receiving mails from Indian students who have made it to IBL program this year, and most of them have similar queries, therefore I am posting another blog based on the common set of questions being asked. Caveat, these are my personal remarks and findings, NUS has nothing to do with it. Welcome on Board: At the outset I would like to Congratulate all those who have made it to LL.M(IBL). Course: Course is well recognized by UGC and by Indian law firms. Course is structured in a manner that meets your practical requirements of this profession after the successful completion of this degree and as you would have read it in my erstwhile post, taught by Professors who are authority in their respective fields. Whether you will have an edge over others or not would be a matter of your performance and luck both. ACCOMMODATION: Accommodation inherently is two pronged question, accommodation in Singapore and Shanghai. In Singapore I would strongly recommend Evans Lodge as it is spit away from the Law Faculty and library. In Shanghai, ECUPL provides you an option to stay in the Hostel which is located within the premise, alternatively few of you can come together and rent a private house as well, something that I did. Coming to the expenses, Singapore would cost you, roughly, 1000 SGD per month including your lodging and boarding as you will be there for two and half months it should not be more than 2200SGD- flight ticket to shanghai would cost you an additional 400 SGD(approx)- subject to the condition that you live a modest life. In Shanghai, if you opt for hostel which will be around 4800 RMB(single room)or 2400RMB(double bed room), for whole year, your monthly expenses would be very less around 1000 RMB/month at the max, subject to the condition that you do not go for night outs in clubs and pubs. Same formula applies to your private accommodation just add the rent that you will be paying for your apartment. JOBS: There are students from previous year and this year who have successfully secured a job for themselves, so yes there is job opportunity for everyone. Having said that one should keep in his/her mind that LLM per se does not guarantee a job, other factors, such as grades, previous experience, luck etc etc, do have a role to play. Nevertheless, about the job prospects in shanghai I am not in a position to answer, as I have never tried it, but, apparently,it is extremely difficult, if not a wild goose chase, to find a job in Shanghai, ratio is your inability to read and write Mandarin plus the Civil law jurisdiction. Package determination is not in my capacity, its up to your previous academics, achievements, experiences, LLM result and above all market requirement in Singapore. Best Abhishek Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:45:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#45214 Hi Abhishek, I wrote you 5 months ago to ask you some questions about the IBL, I don't know if you remember me. I'm writing you again because I received the admission mail to the next IBL a few days ago. Immediately I was really happy but, after reading your post, I want to ask you if you highly suggest a Master like the IBL, in particular with regard to the job opportunities, or you think it's better something different. - Is it possible to find an internship (or a job) in Shanghai without knowing Mandarin or not? Thank you. Fedefra Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:46:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#45229 Dear Pal, Being honest, I dont really remember, your previous mail. However, it is altogether irrelevant here. I understand your position as I was also in the same situation while joining this program, when I left Geneva. Candidly, its up to you to decide, there is possibility of you getting internship in China and Singapore, both. Another advantage would be Networking, China is growing market you can develop a network in the lawfirms and company during your studies. One of our alumni, a swiss guy, is working here in China. Yes you can find an internship without knowing Manadarin, there is precedent to it. one of our alumni did an internship, without knowing Manadarin, in one the top tier law firms in China.I hope I answered your questions. To take up this course or not, is something your personal decision. However, after deciding that I will take up this course, I never have any regret, and find it one of the good decisions for me. Best, A Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:27:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#46322 hi, I got this admission(IBL) seveal weeks ago, and I think this program is really worth. Maybe we will become classmates in July. ^_^ PS: I come from China, so if you have questions with the studying life in China, please contact with me freely and I will try my best. msn: scorpio_yang86@hotmail.com Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:53:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#46347 hi, I got this admission(IBL) seveal weeks ago, and I think this program is really worth. Maybe we will become classmates in July. ^_^ PS: I come from China, so if you have questions with the studying life in China, please contact with me freely and I will try my best. msn: scorpio_yang86@hotmail.com Hiya, Scorpio. I am Chinese, too. Are you currently in Shanghai? Maybe we can go there together. :) Contact: windancer1986@hotmail.com or QQ 54697256 Fri, 09 May 2008 23:25:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#47116 Hi, has anyone yet received the official offer package from NUS? It was announced for early May... Mon, 12 May 2008 02:59:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#47165 Not yet. How about you and below? Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:22:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#47887 Hi. I have received my offer from NUS for the IBL programme. i am only confused about my accomodation at Singapore. I have applied Evans Lodge for a room. other than this is there any other option....in case i dont get a booking at Evans. I prefer any hostel close to the capmus... not private accomodation. or else is there a on capmus accomodation available?? further, what about stay at Shanghai... when should we book our accomodation? Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:24:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#48309 Hi. I have received my offer from NUS for the IBL programme. i am only confused about my accomodation at Singapore. I have applied Evans Lodge for a room. other than this is there any other option....in case i dont get a booking at Evans. I prefer any hostel close to the capmus... not private accomodation. or else is there a on capmus accomodation available?? further, what about stay at Shanghai... when should we book our accomodation? I also booked EL which is said to be the nearest accommodation to the campus, and I trasmitted the deposite. I'm from Shanghai and I think it is not very tough to find accommodation in Shanghai. We have holidays from late Sep. to 7th Oct. I think you could come to China and look for the accommodation in this period. Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:13:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/36358/last#48447 guys evans lodge is supposedly full..... i have no idea where else should i stay in singpre