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CR1

Joined: 26 Nov 2007
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Distance learning L.L.M from UoL
Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:38 PM

Hi,

I am a lawyer working for a international bank and am interested in the Distance learning Banking and Finance L.L.M from UoL.

I just have some doubts about its legimity.I mean will it have the same " value" as the usual LLM's?what is the rank of the UoL AND what is the rank of this particular LLM.will it help me to get a job in an good english law firm?
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ideagirl

Joined: 01 Dec 2007
Posts: 6
Distance learning L.L.M from UoL
Sun Dec 02, 2007 05:36 PM
The U of London's LLM is run jointly by two colleges within the U of London: Queen Mary and University College London. Both of them are top-ranked law schools in the UK. Distance learning has a long history in the UK--the university of London's been offering distance-learning degrees for 150 years, and distance-learning LLM's for about 80 years.

I have no idea how this will impact your ability to get the sort of job you want because I don't know where you're licensed to practice law--if you haven't already passed the England and Wales bar, i.e. if you're practicing somewhere else, the LLM alone will not qualify you to practice law in the UK (or I should say, in England and Wales--the Scottish bar is a separate entity). It is possible for American lawyers to sit the England and Wales bar in New York City. So look into that if you still need that qualification.
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CR1

Joined: 26 Nov 2007
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Distance learning L.L.M from UoL
Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:36 AM
Thx ideagirl
I am interested in this LLM to practice law within an english law firm but in not in England but in the Gulf region_duai_ where my area of expertise reqlly is so what i really wanted to know is if obtaining a llm via UoL distance learning has the same value as obtqining an LLM on campus and will it help obtaining a job the same way as a regular llm will?
Thx
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CR1

Joined: 26 Nov 2007
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Distance learning L.L.M from UoL
Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:02 AM
And just to be more precise the specialization i intend to study is banking and finance

thx for sharing your thoughts
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domyumbri

Joined: 09 Dec 2007
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Distance learning L.L.M from UoL
Sat Dec 15, 2007 01:51 AM
Thomas Jefferson (ABA) in Sandiego has a completely online FInancial Services ABA approved LLM program.. If you are worried about the U of London program, you can now receive a complete program in the Financial Sector. It was run at St THomas (ABA) in Miami and now is in San Diego-----




Hi,I am a lawyer working for a international bank and am interested in the Distance learning Banking and Finance L.L.M from UoL.I just have some doubts about its legimity.I mean will it have the same " value" as the usual LLM's?what is the rank of the UoL AND what is the rank of this particular LLM.will it help me to get a job in an good english law firm?
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ctu1121

Joined: 12 Dec 2007
Posts: 2
Distance learning L.L.M from UoL
Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:17 AM
May I get the requirement to pass the NY bar after I finish this distance learning LLM?
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domyumbri

Joined: 09 Dec 2007
Posts: 11
Distance learning L.L.M from UoL
Sat Dec 15, 2007 06:50 PM
The NCBE has it - I believe ny needs 20 aba credits if you have a foreign llb. Some states dont require the LLM, they just have to review your credits. Louisian, Tenn, ala all say on the ABA chart that subject to review. SO, if you have a 3 year U of London LLB(which is 1 of the top law schools in europe), you can prob sit for those bars with no LLM


May I get the requirement to pass the NY bar after I finish this distance learning LLM?
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Richie

Joined: 20 Jan 2008
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Distance learning L.L.M from UoL
Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:16 PM
Hello,
I doubt that NY bar regulations will find satisfactory any distance learning LLM, whether ABA approved or not, no more than they do with distance learning JDs or LLBs.
Besides their rules clearly state that, in order to satisfy the bar admissibility requirements, the LLM attended must be located in the US. To me, best is to come back to the original info on the NY bar web site...

[Edited by Richie on 20 Jan 2008]
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WPL Lawyer

Joined: 27 Jan 2009
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Wed Jan 28, 2009 09:48 PM
Think again, Richie.

NYU is now offering an online/distance LL.M. in Tax that was largely patterned after the one at Thomas Jefferson. Alabama is now doing the same.
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Luca

Joined: 25 May 2005
Posts: 6
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Thu Feb 19, 2009 04:28 PM

check this out about NY BAR
www.nybarexam.org/Eligible/Eligibility.htm

I guess is quite clear....
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koala


Joined: 16 Sep 2008
Posts: 169
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Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:49 AM
I agree with Luca. The rules state 'Law degrees obtained by way of correspondence, external, internet or self study do not qualify an individual to take the New York bar examination'.

The board of examiners in NY usually that only LLMs actually taking place in the US qualify. There may possibly be exceptions on a case by case basis but check before spending time and resources...

[Edited by koala on 10 Mar 2009]
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Priyankajalan

Joined: 15 May 2009
Posts: 2
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Sat May 16, 2009 11:31 AM
Dear All,

I am an advocate currently looking for a job of a corporate associate in a good law firm in dubai. I plan to pursue a long distance LLM course offered by UoL in international business law. Please could you tell me about the rating of the course, is it really worthwhile, the faculty and the future prospects. Thanks
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drjmpc

Joined: 28 May 2009
Posts: 1
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Fri May 29, 2009 01:16 AM
Ok. As the only non-legal student or professional, I am having a hard time believing that in a forum full of barristers/lawyers, not one of you discussing distance programs has taken the time to fully understand the subject.

While the State Bar Association and the ABA can choose to take issue with this, the record is clear: most of these programs do not qualify as true correspondence programs based upon rules and laws that govern each of the states Board of Governors/Regents requiring for the delivery of a degree of higher education - bachelor's or otherwise. Do you know how you are able to skirt this issue and still issue a valid, recognized degree? its called residency period. Nearly all of the recognized U.S. based LL.M [and many of the MBA programs for that matter] programs require a period physical residency on the campus, as dictated by the program's need and the Board of Governors/Regents for that state. Now while it is much easier for the ABA to reject the notion of this "skirtting of the spirt of the law", for the state bar that is a little more dicey. So this is the reason for the emergence of programs like Northwestern & I.E.'s Executive LLM. I mean if you think about it, what is really the difference between these kinds of distance programs that require a 8-10 day meet up at the beginning of the year, and a professor who tell's you he doesn't take attendance and he will only have has his aides available as tutor's until the midterm, repeating the same afterwards until the final? Zero difference.

So suffice it to say, that the ABA will be on the ropes within 5-7 years about qualifiying foreign lawyers to practice, simply because the world becoming so interdependent, that very soon, you will need an adviser that is licensed in U.S. Tax Law as well as in South African Securities Law -- I know my fiancee will.
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