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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:58:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>L&amp;E-pil: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#38501</link> 
<description>I noticed that last year the first person to receive admission from Columbia within the scope of the regular cycle was notified on the 11th of January. Based on the fact that admissions procedure doesn&#39;t change substantially from year to year, I think it is time for those of us who applied through the regular cycle to start waiting for decisions by Columbia University.
I launch this forum for us to post the decisions that we receive from Columbia. 
TIP: When you share your admission with the viewers of the forum, please indicate the date you submitted your application and the date you receive an &quot;application complete notification&quot;. This would help the rest of us, to understand when our decision will come out.</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:50:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Humber: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#38504</link> 
<description>I applied on the deadline (17.12, I think), with one of my friends running to the post office one minute before closing time to get it sent in time. 

Two days ago I received an e-mail from the Office of Graduate Legal Studies, CLS, where they said they would now begin to review my application... So I guess it will still take quite some time for some of us.</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:43:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>amicus: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#38509</link> 
<description>Has anyone not received the &quot;application complete&quot; notification yet?
I applied slightly before the deadline (Dec. 14), but I have not received an email stating that my application was complete. </description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:42:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>ElS: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#38510</link> 
<description>Hi all.

I know of someone who was admitted to CLS two days ago, not by early review. So it has begun.

Good luck.</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:55:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>hjscotland: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#38518</link> 
<description>My application was deemed complete on Dec 28th. Heard nothing since then. If the regular decisions have started that&#39;s exciting news!!</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:34:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Tomi: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#38526</link> 
<description>I received the &quot;application completeness&quot; email only few days ago (although I sent all the application materials on early December). It will probably take long time till I receive the answer... long cold waiting. Can&#39;t wait anymore...</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:25:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>espinoso: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#38841</link> 
<description>Hi everybody. 

I sent all materials a few days before deadline (Dec. 10), and received completion by e-mail last week. 

Good luck to everybody!</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:41:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>L&amp;E-pil: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#38842</link> 
<description>Does anyone happen to know if the time that they send you the &quot;application complete&quot; notification plays any role in when they are going to announce you their decision? I received this notification on December the 7th. Does that mean that I am going to receive their decision sooner than others who received the notification later?</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:12:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>amicus: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39257</link> 
<description>Any recent developments from Columbia?</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:12:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Blossum: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39306</link> 
<description>I was rejected by CLS yesterday, Jan 28 and Cardozo today.  Not my favorite scenario, but just wanted to keep you updated on the latest developments.

The best of luck to you guys!</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:21:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>rafadavi: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39307</link> 
<description> I was rejected by CLS yesterday, Jan 28 and Cardozo today.  Not my favorite scenario, but just wanted to keep you updated on the latest developments.

The best of luck to you guys! 

Sorry to hear that, When did you applied?</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 01:00:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>EveB: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39319</link> 
<description>Does anyone knows if Columbia sends the admission/rejection notices through e-mail or regular mail?
Thanks!</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:57:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>PA: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39347</link> 
<description>RG, you applied through a regular cycle, right?

CLS website states decisions are delivered March through May.  Their decisions seem to be moving forward!</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:19:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>ElS: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39348</link> 
<description>Hi. I received admission from CLS January 14 (regular cycle), so things are moving.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:59:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>L&amp;E-pil: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39353</link> 
<description>EIS, when did you receive the &quot;application complete&quot; notification?
It seems that already a bunch of people have been accepted to Columbia&#39;s LL.M. either through early review or through the regular cycle. I&#39;m starting to lose hope gradually....</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:50:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>ElS: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39355</link> 
<description>I received the application complete notice on Nov 21. There is absolutely no reason to lose hope. It is totally random - I know of a few brilliant people, with better credentials than mine, who still haven&#39;t received admission.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:22:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>L&amp;E-pil: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39358</link> 
<description>Thanks a lot EIS! That&#39;s very encouraging. I received the application complete notice on Dec 7, if this plays any role. Anyway, congratulations on your admission to Columbia. There is no need to say how important this is. Where are you from?</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:20:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>8EIOSPIT7: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39360</link> 
<description>Congrats EIS!! Could you pls let us know if you received your admission letter through e-mail or regular mail? Thank you in advance! </description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:15:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Blossum: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39364</link> 
<description>rafadavi, I have applied thru reagular cycle.
EveB, the rejections by CLS was sent via e-mail.
Good luck!
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:36:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>ElS: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39365</link> 
<description>I received the admission mail by email, and then by FedEx. Note that admission is only the first step - I&#39;ll only be happy when I receive positive answers regarding Financial Aid.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:06:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Blossum: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39370</link> 
<description> RG, you applied through a regular cycle, right?

CLS website states decisions are delivered March through May.  Their decisions seem to be moving forward! 
Hi PA! Yes, I applied thru regular cycle, right before the deadline, and my &quot;application complete&quot; came on Jan 7.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:04:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>gppinheiro: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39377</link> 
<description>Congrats EIS!

Hope you get the financial aid. Looking forward to meet you next August in NYC.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:40:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Jammin: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39389</link> 
<description>Congratulationns EIS! Hope to see you in NYC!</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:12:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>hjscotland: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39638</link> 
<description>Anyone else heard anything about REGULAR cycle? I&#39;m still waiting - just want to keep the topic alive.</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:53:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Max1: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39641</link> 
<description>I applied trough the regular cycle (12/12/2007) and received the admission e-mail last Wednesday (1/6/2008). Today I received by Fedex the formal admission letter along with the Admitted Student Handbook.

Curiously, I did never receive the application completion e-mail. I wrote last Wednesday requesting an up-date on my application status and later that same afternoon I received the admission e-mail. However, I don’t know if the admission e-mail had anything to do with me filing the information request.
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<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:02:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Jammin: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39643</link> 
<description>Congrats Max1 for your admission! One question: what is your deadline for accepting?
I&#39;ve been admitted through the early review and my deadline is March 10th 2008.
Thanks
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<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:14:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Max1: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39645</link> 
<description>Thanks Miki. 
My deadline is March 15.
Max</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:36:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>hjscotland: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39649</link> 
<description>congrats on your admission  - I wish you well: thanks for the reply to my post.</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:14:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Max1: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39662</link> 
<description>You&#39;re welcome hjscotland</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:42:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>lawadd08: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39773</link> 
<description>Hey Max,

Congratulations.. 

Are you waiting for any other schools to reply?</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:31:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Max1: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39779</link> 
<description>Thanks lawadd08. I’m still waiting for news from Havard and NYU. But as for now, Columbia is my first choice </description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:41:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Max1: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39834</link> 
<description>I wanted to let you know that my wife received the admission notice yesterday. She sent her application right before the deadline. The admissions e-mail also mentioned that CLS couldn’t offer her financial aid. The deadline for accepting is Marc 15th.
Max</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:19:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>DuraLexSedLex: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39846</link> 
<description>Max1:

thanks for the info and congratulations.
Did she apply for early action?
Was she notified by email or regular mail?

Thanks and good luck

Alex</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:47:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>MiLa.Ramires: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39851</link> 
<description>Hi, everyone!

I&#39;d like to know what are your law school scores, cuz I want to apply for Columbia, but my scores are not so great. So, I would love if you guys that were accepted could tell me what are your law school scores so I can find if I&#39;ll have to improve my grades.

Thank you all.
xoxo</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:54:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Max1: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39857</link> 
<description>Alex: she applied trough the regular cycle, right before the deadline. They’re notifying via e-mail.
Max</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:03:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Max1: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39860</link> 
<description>Mila: I’m Colombian and our grading system is quite different from the American system. My GPA was 4.58 / 5.00. According to the LSAC report the suggested US grades are as follows:

A+ = 5.00 to 4.6
A = 4.4 to 4.0
B = 3.99 to 3.5
C = 3.49 to 3.00 
F = 2.99 to 0   
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<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:00:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Nathan11: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39891</link> 
<description>Hi, guys, I also got the admission e-mail yesterday!  I was really pleased because it was my first admission and Columbia was one of my first choices. FYI, I am an asian lawyer who have several years experience of corporate and governmental litigation and arbitration. I applied through the regular cycle right before the deadline. I have to deposit 500 US$ by Mar 15. 

Of course, I am planning to accept their offer, but still waiting for Berkeley&#39;s offer before I finally make a decision (I didn&#39;t applied to Stanford). I understand that Columbia and NYC is simply the best place for studying transnational litigation and international arbitration, but does anybody have information about Berkeley in this field? I am kind of attracted to Berkeley for their finest weather and surroundings...and NYC&#39;s high cost of living somewhat scares me...

Thanks in advance, and for those who are waiting, wish you good luck!!!</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:36:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Max1: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#39931</link> 
<description>Nathan11:

Congratulations on your admission. I’m also interested in litigation and international arbitration. I applied to CLS, HLS and NYU, (I didn’t apply to Berkley). CLS is my fist choice, but I’m still waiting for offers from HLS and NYU. Do you have an opinion on which one is better in our fields of interest?

Max1  
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<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 23:20:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Nathan11: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40010</link> 
<description> Nathan11:

Congratulations on your admission. I’m also interested in litigation and international arbitration. I applied to CLS, HLS and NYU, (I didn’t apply to Berkley). CLS is my fist choice, but I’m still waiting for offers from HLS and NYU. Do you have an opinion on which one is better in our fields of interest?
Max1  
 
@Max1

FYI, I applied to CLS, UPenn, Berkeley, Northwestern. Even though I considered some other aspects such as superiority of the business law faculty, diversity of the program etc, I must say that I selected schools primarily by general reputations. I didn&#39;t appy to HLS and NYU in that I didn&#39;t have much time and failed to meet the deadline of these 2 schools. I regret that I lost the opportunity, however, as to NYU, actually their large llm size and selectivity led me to lose interest. 

Per international arbitration, I cunsulted to my firm&#39;s IP/Arbitration partner who is CLS alumnus. He naturally advised me to go to CLS and told me of some huge guy&#39;s name like Smit and Bermann, but in substance nothing more (he graduated long time ago). Therefore, I checked through this site and concluded that even though it might not be the best (compared to HLS), CLS+NYC would be perfect combination. Sorry that I cannot be of any help. Hope you find some useful insights from these old posts. 
  
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/13639/1
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/14328
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/21004
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/28560
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/35331</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:18:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Max1: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40035</link> 
<description>Nathan: thanks a lot!
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<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:43:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>aishisha78: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40036</link> 
<description>Hi Guys! Ive applied to CLS (regular dEadline) but not received any e-mail yet. Just one more question to those who have been already admitted: Was your toefl score in line with their request? Could somebody tell me if there is any chance to be admitted to CLS  wiht a lower TOEFL score?
Thanks</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:55:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Jammin: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40070</link> 
<description>HI Aishisha,
my TOEFL score is 114, so it was not a problem for me.
However, a friend of mine was admitted to Columbia (and Harvard as well) last year with 107 points, but only 23 in speaking section (I think that the minimum requested is 25); so I don&#39;t think TOEFL is a decisive factor as there are more important things (CV, reccommendation, academic results, etc.),

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<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:03:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>gppinheiro: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40081</link> 
<description>Couldn&#39;t agree more Miki. Once you reach the minimum score required , Toefl stops playing a major role in the application&#39;s big picture.</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:54:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>aishisha78: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40097</link> 
<description>Thanks a lot for your opinions guys!...I guess I have strong CV, strong letters of reference... but my TOEFL, despite my efforts (and the fact that I studied and worked abroad), does not reach at all the minimum required! I am still keeping on studying in order to take the test again before they can make a decision...I do not Know how much they can wait for my new score...by the way, I have the impression that something with the ETS does not work properly...I took the test twice and I thought to have done pretty well..but indeed my scores were terribly low... Did u have similar problem with the toefl test in the past?... U know, I really do not whether continue to hope or start to think at a solution different from beginning my LLM this year!   </description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:09:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>L&amp;E-pil: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40098</link> 
<description>As far as I am concerned, I don&#39;t think that TOEFL plays a major role in the admission process. I don&#39;t think Columbia would reject a strong candidate with good qualifications and great potential just because he/she is slightly below the required TOEFL score. I think these universities have intelligent people in their admission committees who know that TOEFL doesn&#39;t say much about one&#39;s command of the English language. Especially, the speaking section in iBT TOEFL is a mess and everybody knows that. And in the writing section, if you don&#39;t have great typing skills, you can&#39;t do much even if you your writing is first-class! I think  people at Columbia are well aware of these facts and they will emphasize more on the fact that you studied and worked abroad using English for you everyday communication. Consequently, in my opinion you don&#39;t have to worry as long as you have good credentials.</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:18:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Jammin: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40099</link> 
<description>I totally agree with L&amp;E-pil. For instance, when I tried the TOEFL in July the microphone wasn&#39;t working very well so I thought that I would have performed poorly in the speaking section....to the contrary I got 28. 
So I reached the personal conclusion that chance does play a key role with the TOEFL exam and I think that this is widely known by the admission committees of U.S. Law Schools 
In the end you still have a lot of chances!
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<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:04:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>kira008: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40118</link> 
<description>To make things funny.. I took the test in 2006 in NYC when IBT was first starting in the US, my speaking score was 29 and my listening section was only 23. Can I better speak than listen? That&#39;s the question that I still cannot answer..:) And it still worked as I got the admission to CLS with this score. So, do not worry too much.</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:37:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Mr. Mxyzptlk: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40253</link> 
<description>Hi everybody,

Just to keep you informed. A friend of mine who applied in the regular cycle received the acceptance e-mail today.

Does anybody else received it? Does anybody received a financial aid offer??</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:17:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>PA: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40255</link> 
<description>I got an admissions decision today, having been deferred from early review to regular cycle.

Good luck to you all!</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:57:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>psag: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40262</link> 
<description>Congratulations PA!

Good luck to those who have yet to receive decisions.
Any word on when financial aid decisions are going to be made?</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:22:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>list: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40269</link> 
<description>Congrats PA. 

I was also deferred from early to regular, but so far no news. Keeping fingers crossed </description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:47:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>elelem: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40275</link> 
<description>Hi, 

Any is there any fresh graduate who has heard from Columbia?

Either conditional offer or otherwise ?

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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:47:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>L&amp;E-pil: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40281</link> 
<description> Hi, 

Any is there any fresh graduate who has heard from Columbia?

Either conditional offer or otherwise ?

 
I am a fresh graduate as well, but I haven&#39;t heard anything from Columbia yet. It is my personal conviction that fresh graduates, since they are officially not a priority for Columbia Law School, will be the last to be notified on their admission/rejection. This is just my personal view and I have to make clear that it is neither an official policy of CLS nor have I heard it from anyone. Just my way of viewing things.
CLS is probably (once again I&#39;m just expressing my personal thoughts) urged right now to offer admission to promising professionals, which is the &quot;target group&quot; of this school.
CLS wouldn&#39;t afford to lose some promising professionals, so by telling them that they have to register until March 10th, meaning before schools like HLS or SLS announce their decisions, it&#39;s trying to &quot;attract&quot; them. Thus, fresh graduates would be those who will hear from CLS late April or early May, since CLS wouldn&#39;t mind losing them.</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:49:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>NMBR: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40287</link> 
<description>I applied to columbia last year as a fresh graduate, and i had a negative response from them in mid february. 
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:06:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Tomer(Israel): Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40289</link> 
<description>Hey NMBR. 
I&#39;m Also a fresh Graduate (1 Year of training), got a reject a couple of days ago from Columbia. :(...

So where else did u get admitted last year? and if possible when and how did you received the notification?

FYI - I Applied to SLS, HLS, CLS, NYU, Chicago, Boalt, Upenn &amp; Cornell. 
So far, Got Accepted to Cornell, Defered to regular cycle at UPENN and rejected by columbia. 

Shalom &amp; Good luck to all.</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:57:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>aishisha78: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40330</link> 
<description> Hi, 

Any is there any fresh graduate who has heard from Columbia?

Either conditional offer or otherwise ?

Hi elelem!

could u please explain to  me what do u mean for conditional offer? 
Iam actually trying to understand whether it could be possible got the admission decision on probation...i mean if they can accept u only if u accomplish certain conditions within a some time... 
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:23:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>L&amp;E-pil: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40355</link> 
<description>  Hi, 

Any is there any fresh graduate who has heard from Columbia?

Either conditional offer or otherwise ?

Hi elelem!

could u please explain to  me what do u mean for conditional offer? 
Iam actually trying to understand whether it could be possible got the admission decision on probation...i mean if they can accept u only if u accomplish certain conditions within a some time... 
Thanks 
The policy of &quot;conditional offer&quot; is common among U.K. universities I think, where applicants tend to apply without having completed their undergraduate studies yet or without having taken the TOEFL. So, the university makes an offers on the condition that you will receive your LL.B. until i.e. June or that you will submit a TOEFL test until i.e. July. Based on Columbia&#39;s eligibility requirements, I think &quot;conditional offer&quot; is not possible. Columbia says that you should already hold an undergraduate law degree in order to apply -students in their last year of undergr. studies are not disallowed to apply, but they are obviously discouraged at least in Columbia&#39;s case. In any case, a fresh graduate already holds by definition a LL.B., so he would not receive a conditional offer in this case. As far as the TOEFL is concerned, I think that you cannot submit a TOEFL score after the Dec 15th deadline, so a conditional offer, which would urge the applicant to submit a TOEFL score until a certain date otherwise he would lose the offer, is not possible. 
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:20:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>aishisha78: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40358</link> 
<description>Thanks L&amp;E-pil! 
U went actually straight to the point...the TOEFL...of course...which still remains my main problem...So u think it is not useful any more to try to take again the TOEFL in order to get an higher score, giving that I have not achieved the minimum they require?</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:05:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>L&amp;E-pil: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40362</link> 
<description> Thanks L&amp;E-pil! 
U went actually straight to the point...the TOEFL...of course...which still remains my main problem...So u think it is not useful any more to try to take again the TOEFL in order to get an higher score, giving that I have not achieved the minimum they require? 
 I didn&#39;t say it wouldn&#39;t be useful to take the TOEFL again. My post was the result of pure deductive logic. I wasn&#39;t trying to represent the official policy of Columbia, because I don&#39;t know what their official policy is. In any case, I would recommend you to take the TOEFL again and send them the results as soon as possible. Columbia is not an administrative authority, where you won&#39;t get your job done if you don&#39;t have all the essential papers with you. It&#39;s a university which wants to attract intelligent and qualified lawyers into it&#39;s community. I have to state again, that I truly and deeply believe that if you really have the credentials that Columbia seeks in a candidate, TOEFL wouldn&#39;t pose an obstacle for them to offer you a place in the LL.M. program. Thus, if you&#39;d take the test again and submit them the results as soon as possible you would just make their decision easier. 
I think I should be worried more than you do, since I am a fresh graduate and I have NO professional experience, which means I&#39;m just out of their target group. That&#39;s a disadvantage for Columbia, not a low TOEFL score.
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:28:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>aishisha78: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40372</link> 
<description>Thanks for your patience... I do not wanna seem anxious but indedd Iam...and this toefl stuff is getting me crazy...!
Ok .... just keep on crossing our fingers...</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:19:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>L&amp;E-pil: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40394</link> 
<description> Thanks for your patience... I do not wanna seem anxious but indedd Iam...and this toefl stuff is getting me crazy...!
Ok .... just keep on crossing our fingers... 
Everyone is anxious right now. And I&#39;m sure everyone has one good reason to be anxious, whether it is the TOEFL score, the lack of professional experience, low grades, bad recommendations, not properly written statement etc. Lawyers are famous for being anxious in general. I would recommend though that you remain calm, as I believe that no applicant&#39;s life depends on an admission from a U.S. law school. Of course it is a step forward, a great chance, but I still I don&#39;t think it should become a reason to destroy a whole winter (meaning the winter while you wait the decision). </description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:46:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Jammin: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40405</link> 
<description>I agree with L&amp;E-pil. Once you have submitted the application there is nothing you can do about it but wait for the answer. 

Of course everyone is eager to receive admissions but, as we all know, it is likely that we might get admitted in some schools and rejected in others since the evaluating process is very different in each school.
For instance, I know few people with very good credentials (but different ones from the others) who were rejected by lower ranked schools (i.e. Berkeley or Michigan) but admitted to higher ranked ones (i.e., Columbia and Harvard).  So, in the end, the selection process is very subjective and even if you have a poor TOEFL score you may succeed because of other strengths you have.
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<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:48:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Aooni: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40438</link> 
<description>Remember what you sent to the school for application: PS, resume, recommendation, TOEFL and past grades.
The whole thing is a single application and the schools decide what they regard the most. As far as I believe for top LL.M. application, recommedation and past job experience counts the most. Getting a good recommendation from a notable people represents that you&#39;re a decent professional and that you&#39;ve been working really hard. 
There&#39;s no fact to back my message, but I&#39;ve been admitted to 5 of theT14 schools (including Columbia, Penn and Duke)with not so great grades.
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<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:02:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>saadia: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40470</link> 
<description>THE WAIT IS TOOOOOOOOO LONG</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:50:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>magicandrew: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40503</link> 
<description>I worte to CLS and got the following response. Seems that we could do nothing but wait.

Dear Mr. [*]: 

We are still in the process of reviewing applications.  We hope to have a decision made on your file in the next couple of months.  I am sorry I cannot give you a more specific timeline. 

Sincerely, 

[*]
Director, Graduate Legal Studies
Columbia Law School</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:41:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>L&amp;E-pil: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40504</link> 
<description>Well, that&#39;s how Columbia works. Completely random. You might be very lucky and have your application reviewed in early January or you might be very unlucky and have your application reviewed in early May. There is no specific timeline. The e-mail can pop up any time.
However, I truly believe that applications of people with many years of professional experience are reviewed first. Fresh graduates are in the worst position in the case of Columbia (I&#39;m pretty sure, I will already have enrolled at another Law School, when Columbia will send out a decision. The same has happened to dozens of applicants in the past.)</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:22:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Lemonde1978: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#40950</link> 
<description>Anyone has received news from Columbia in the last two weeks? 
I&#39;m starting to be a little bit worried about my chances....
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<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:37:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>app_fi: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41043</link> 
<description>Dear L.,

I have received a response from Columbia last Friday (February 22), but I think you should&#39;nt worry about this, since the procedure of admission is completely random.

If you have not received your response yet, there is still hope (remember that there are people who have already received a negative answer). Probably they did not finish the process of reviewing your application.

Good luck! I hope to see you in NY.

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<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:57:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Lemonde1978: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41084</link> 
<description>Thank you fer_rj for the info! 
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<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:38:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>amicus: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41224</link> 
<description>Anyone else heard from Columbia recently? 
While they state that they make their decisions on a rolling basis, I&#39;m just wondering if they are actually reviewing the ones with stellar credentials first (admissions), along with the ones who do not meet their minimum standards (ie. rejections and no hope for admissions), and then everyone else in between the top and the bottom applicants. 
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 07:27:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>L&amp;E-pil: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41240</link> 
<description> Anyone else heard from Columbia recently? 
While they state that they make their decisions on a rolling basis, I&#39;m just wondering if they are actually reviewing the ones with stellar credentials first (admissions), along with the ones who do not meet their minimum standards (ie. rejections and no hope for admissions), and then everyone else in between the top and the bottom applicants. 
Any thoughts? 
I assume that this is what happens with Columbia. I think they are clever enough to understand that if they answer to someone in early May, he/she will most likely have already registered to another school. So, they know they are loosing this applicant. But they send him/her the admission so late, because they really don&#39;t care if he/she doesn&#39;t enroll to the Law School finally. Columbia makes sure to send admissions early to the applicants it really wants in it&#39;s LL.M. (and sets them the March 10th deadline to accept) and then reviews the application of other people. </description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:42:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>stan12: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41242</link> 
<description>Hello!
I received my admission email (without any financial aid) yesterday and they ask me to submit a non-refundable deposit of $500 by March 24, 2008 to reserve my place in the LL.M. Program. </description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:35:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>hemera: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41245</link> 
<description>Did any of those who have been admitted apply without any work experience?</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:30:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Jammin: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41263</link> 
<description>Hi hemera,
I think that Columbia is one of the few Law Schools in the U.S. which highly values previous working experience. 
As you may read in this thread so far most of the applicants without working experience have not been admitted, but, all the same, they have not been rejected either.
As L&amp;E-pil has correctly pointed out Columbia tend to previously admit applicants with significant experience and if there is still room available the other ones. 

Anyway, there are other great law schools (such as UChicago or Michigan) which instead tend to focus more on academic achievements: it is just a matter of policy of the university.
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:30:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>ellelem: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41277</link> 
<description>When is Columbia going to send the admission decisions???
Is Columbia sending the decisions by mail or email???
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:36:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Jammin: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41280</link> 
<description>All decisions relevant to the Early Review were sent out at the end of December.
The others are sent on a rolling basis. If you read posts you will find people who have been admitted starting from the beginning of January until this week.
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<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:55:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Samata: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41332</link> 
<description>I was admitted via the early review program and I have also applied for financial aid.   In the offer letter (which was sent via email and later, by courier), I was also informed that I have received a waiver of a small portion of the tuition fee.  

I am not sure if this process also applies to the normal cycle or you would be informed of the financial aid decision in a seperate occasion. 

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<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:23:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>mickeyb: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41407</link> 
<description>I was admitted in early January and today i received an email that i had received a half tuition waiver.  So it seems like they have very different processes for different people.</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:12:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>jenkinsVrose: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41410</link> 
<description>Congratulations everybody!
  I just got the acceptance e-mail! But they&#39;ve already said that there will be no financial aid to me...
  Anyways, I&#39;m happy just for being accepted!</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 06:56:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>kh: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41435</link> 
<description>Hello everyone,
Would be grateful if you could help me out.
I&#39;m currently a final year law student who has applied to the CLS LLM Program. I know a lot of people who have got offers from CLS. I have, however, not received any email from CLS yet.
What does this mean?
Thanks guys.</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 08:58:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>L&amp;E-pil: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41440</link> 
<description> Hello everyone,
Would be grateful if you could help me out.
I&#39;m currently a final year law student who has applied to the CLS LLM Program. I know a lot of people who have got offers from CLS. I have, however, not received any email from CLS yet.
What does this mean?
Thanks guys. 

It just means that your application has not been reviewed yet. You should know that Columbia has not only sent admissions to many people, but rejections as well. They won&#39;t hide it from you, if you&#39;re rejected. So, as long as you don&#39;t hear from them, you&#39;re still in the game.</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:30:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>kh: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41447</link> 
<description>Thanks L&amp;E-pil. Appreciate ur help.</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 08:44:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>miyu55: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41545</link> 
<description>Hey everyone. Has any of you received a deferral in the early application process and then received an admission or rejection decision? I received my deferral mail on 27 December and since then, no positive or negative signs whatsoever. Nerve wrecking to say the least.  </description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:34:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Allison: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41781</link> 
<description> Hey everyone. Has any of you received a deferral in the early application process and then received an admission or rejection decision? I received my deferral mail on 27 December and since then, no positive or negative signs whatsoever. Nerve wrecking to say the least.   

That&#39;s the same thing with me...

Still waiting...</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:26:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>fenua24: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41824</link> 
<description>Hi, received my deferral on December 27 as well but since then I did not receive any news.</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:30:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Litigator01: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41880</link> 
<description>I got admitted to CLS some hours ago.

FYI: I applied to CLS in the regular circle close to the 15 December deadline.

Best of luck to those still waiting.

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<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:25:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Allison: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41902</link> 
<description> I got admitted to CLS some hours ago.

FYI: I applied to CLS in the regular circle close to the 15 December deadline.

Best of luck to those still waiting.

Litigator 

Congrats!

Could you please kindly let us know where you are from and how many years of work experience do you have.

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<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:43:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Litigator01: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#41904</link> 
<description>I come from Switzerland and have four years of work experience.

Good luck.
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<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:21:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>magicandrew: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#42054</link> 
<description>I got it! The letter was sent by CLS to me on March 07. So excited! I have been waiting for so long. I will apply for deferral and go there next year. Wish every one good luck!</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:58:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>niah: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#42149</link> 
<description>Is Columbia sending one e-mail per day!? Seriously, it seems like it takes forever! By the way, is anyone applying for Columbia interested in the human rights program?</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:34:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Brad B: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#42151</link> 
<description>I applied in December.
 
Columbia sent me an email saying they were done with my application on January 14. 

I got an acceptance email on March 6.

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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:02:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>miyu55: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#42233</link> 
<description>Niah, I applied to the human rights program by early application, got deferred to regular cycle on 27th of Dec. and been waiting ever since.</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:14:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>niah: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#42307</link> 
<description>i received my application completion email jan 16th and since then i have not hear anything back from columbia. but i guess no news is better than bad news. so, i am patiently waiting...

by the way, i heard that columbia human rights program is one of the best so let us keep our fingers crossed! </description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:18:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>yeasty: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#42457</link> 
<description>I got an acceptance email yesterday with a tuition waiver of USD 10,000.

FYI
I applied to CLS in the regular circle on 12 December and got a completion email on 15 December.

Good luck!
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<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:07:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>miyu55: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#42461</link> 
<description>Congratulations yeasty, was your application to the human rights program and could you tell about your background a bit?</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:29:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>ElS: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#42464</link> 
<description>I applied to the Human Rights program, was admitted in January, but still no word from the Human Rights Fellowship. Does anyone know whether the financial aid decisions are final? Are they likely to change as the student body forms later on?</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:15:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Sloan: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#42498</link> 
<description>I am still waiting to hear about the financial aid...let&#39;s hope for the best!</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:43:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>niah: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#42585</link> 
<description>congratulations to everyone admitted! seems like they started sending out information on financial aid as well. did you, guys, applied to any other universities? i applied to NYU and got admitted. however, i really, really, prefer cls because of their human rights program. </description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:05:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Lemonde1978: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#42774</link> 
<description>Still waiting.....I&#39;ve been admitted as well in other universities but I prefer by far Columbia because I&#39;m interested in arbitration and it is the best university in this area.
Let&#39;s hope for the best!</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:26:00 +0200</pubDate>
<title>Fleur de Lies: Columbia decisions</title>
<link>http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38501/last#42887</link> 
<description>  i applied to NYU and got admitted. however, i really, really, prefer cls because of their human rights program.  

Quite a surprising statement... NYU is top 1 for human rights stuff; you cannot attend a human rights conference without Alston being cited and the opportunities they provide both during and after the LL.M. are wonderful. 

I didn&#39;t expect I&#39;d be in the luxureous position of having to choose between both law schools, but the argument holding me back from being unconditionally seduced by CLS is exactly the international human rights law program of NYU.</description>
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