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grisselle27

Joined: 27 Apr 2007
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Wesminster and SOAS
Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:47 AM
Hello!! Can anyone tell me about how good are the programs offer by these university?
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hjscotland

Joined: 14 Nov 2007
Posts: 134
Wesminster and SOAS
Mon Jan 28, 2008 02:01 PM
I've heard SOAS is really good, for comparative/international programs, but I know nothing about Westminster.
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CR

Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Posts: 20
Wesminster and SOAS
Mon Jan 28, 2008 02:05 PM
Hi,

What about banking LLM in SOAS?
Any good LLM's in Westminster?

Thx
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hjscotland

Joined: 14 Nov 2007
Posts: 134
Wesminster and SOAS
Mon Jan 28, 2008 02:18 PM
No idea, sorry.
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CR

Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Posts: 20
Wesminster and SOAS
Mon Jan 28, 2008 02:21 PM
Thx anyway.
anyone have an idea?

[Edited by CR on 28 Jan 2008]

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Craig

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 36
Wesminster and SOAS
Mon Jan 28, 2008 06:53 PM
You might as well forget LL.M then even consider a University like Westminster. It's a 'z' tier University and doing LL.M from Westminster should be an absolute 'no', 'no'.

The other University in London you shouldn't even touch with a barge pole is City University (for LL.M). In fact, the most horror stories I have heard on this forum(from City University's ex-students) and outside this forum is reserved for City University.

Despite all the spin given by City Univ's
professor(s) who contribute regularly to this forum etc, City University LL.M has the most negative image amongst prospective students, from all over the world, wanting to do a LL.M in UK.

Doing LL.M at Westminster or City Univ., forget very low on your list, in fact, shouldn't be on your list at all....

All you have to do is check some old posts on this forum for more details.

Hope this helped....



[Edited by Craig on 28 Jan 2008]

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Jeremy1978

Joined: 27 Jan 2008
Posts: 2
Wesminster and SOAS
Mon Jan 28, 2008 08:04 PM
Craig,
I totally disagree with you. I don't know about City University but I am sure your approach to people who have taken the LL.M at Westminster is rather limited. The university has a very competitive Finance and Dispute Resolution LL.Ms, aimed almost exclusively to foreign students, with a lot of practical work. If you care to check, you will realize that Westminster LLM's (at least the ones I mentioned) have a very complete programme.
Additionally, it is very conveniently located in Central London (Oxford Street) and its facilities are amazing.
Your post sounds aggressive and your views are usupported. You don't seem to have understood the objective of this forum and I wonder what your real interests are.
Jeremy
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Craig

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 36
Wesminster and SOAS
Mon Jan 28, 2008 08:16 PM
fair enough, you are entitled to your opinion as I am mine....

And suddenly out of the blue in your very first post, you come out with full guns blazing questioning my motives and start 'vociferously' defending a Univ....Hmmm....

So just wondering about whose 'interests' are really suspect here.

I been on this forum long enough to know what I am talkin about so maybe some 'newbie' on this forum needs to learn about the objectives of this forum first....

FWIW(for all it's worth), all you had to do was check last 2-3 years various posts on this forum (about this unsupported bit etc....)

TC

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Bender


Joined: 17 Jan 2008
Posts: 113
Wesminster and SOAS
Mon Jan 28, 2008 09:50 PM
I can't resist observing that the phrase "I have been on this forum long enough to know what I am talkin about" is wonderful.
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grisselle27

Joined: 27 Apr 2007
Posts: 135
Wesminster and SOAS
Tue Jan 29, 2008 01:15 AM
I have heard that SOAS program are good, but what about the admission process? Is it dificult to get admitted?
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CR

Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Posts: 20
Wesminster and SOAS
Tue Jan 29, 2008 06:23 AM
I thank you all for your insights...
I agree that Westminster is not highly ranked...even badly ranked but from what I’ve heard the corporate finance LLM is supposed to be good!
What do you think? And does the English law firms dissociate between the university and a particular LLM program?
I have also the same question about SOAS? I mean the entry requirements? What is more important grades or CV?
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grisselle27

Joined: 27 Apr 2007
Posts: 135
Wesminster and SOAS
Thu Jan 31, 2008 03:12 PM
CR, I can tell what is more important since i can't find opinion from current students, but it would be great if some of you share with us your point of view.
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Jeremy1978

Joined: 27 Jan 2008
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Wesminster and SOAS
Thu Jan 31, 2008 04:15 PM
Craig,
You are simply wrong. I jumped into this discussion because I just find most of the comments in these sort of forums dissociated from reality. I work for a Magic Circle firm and have seen a lot of useless people coming from Oxford and Cambirdge, and many hard-working individuals who come from smaller universities. Ultimately, it is for each individual to make the most out of its LLM.

BTW (by the way) I also loved, "I have been on this forum long enough to know what I am talkin about" - Do you put this sort of achievements on your CV? Maybe that explains why you should consider shutting up for a while.

Jeremy
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grisselle27

Joined: 27 Apr 2007
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Wesminster and SOAS
Thu Jan 31, 2008 05:11 PM
Jeremy1978 in your experience, could you tell me what's your perspective about SOAS or Westminster? I agree with you, most depends in people efforts.
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CR

Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Posts: 20
Wesminster and SOAS
Sun Feb 03, 2008 07:30 AM
Yes Jeremy, i would be also interested in the same...
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CR

Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Posts: 20
Wesminster and SOAS
Tue Feb 05, 2008 04:09 PM
especially that Westminter is offering interesting courses...
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Banker

Joined: 22 May 2007
Posts: 60
Wesminster and SOAS
Tue Feb 05, 2008 04:35 PM
Would much prefer university which is member of University of London. Go to SOAS, UCL, QMU, Kings or LSE!
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CR

Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Posts: 20
Wesminster and SOAS
Wed Feb 06, 2008 05:56 AM
You are right,

but if you do not have the grades for it...

i mean between the mentioned universities...
which ones are relatively easy to go into...with regular grades but good work experience,,,i know that LSE, UCL and Kings are the hardest..
what do you think?
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grisselle27

Joined: 27 Apr 2007
Posts: 135
Wesminster and SOAS
Wed Feb 06, 2008 04:53 PM
I'm totally agree with CR. LSE, UCL, Soas and Kings are among the best and everyone know their reputation, but I really want to know about in Westminster since itsting programmes seems quite interesting.
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sherman

Joined: 21 Jan 2008
Posts: 12
Wesminster and SOAS
Wed Feb 06, 2008 07:33 PM
I know that there are some courses at SOAS which are jointly taught with UCL professors. So, SOAS must be alright or UCL would not be involved, now that the London LLM is defunct.

As for Westminster, I do not know much about it, but it is not in the same league as SOAS.

As for City, I know that the commercial LLM there has taken a beating from comments on this site, but I have spoken to a friend who did the international law LLM and he said that the international LLM was really, really good.

That doesn't really help though, because overall SOAS (one of your choices) is better.

hope this helps
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CR

Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Posts: 20
Wesminster and SOAS
Sun Feb 10, 2008 01:36 PM
Thank you Sherman,

As u said SOAS is good...just look at its ranking...
As for Westminster...I think you might find some acceptable programs in it...
Another thing ...what are the entrance criteria at SOAS? If we do not fulfil the grades requirements, can we make it up with a good CV?
I guess what I wanted to ask is: if we do not have good grades but good work experience ...where do we apply?
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CR

Joined: 13 Jan 2008
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Wesminster and SOAS
Wed Feb 13, 2008 09:56 AM
Any input from anyone?
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sherman

Joined: 21 Jan 2008
Posts: 12
Wesminster and SOAS
Thu Feb 14, 2008 03:32 PM
CR, yes, there is a chance to make up for not quite making the grade. I know that UCL will consider work experience, if it is impressive and usually substantial, and if the original grades were not too far off the mark.
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