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Greg_08


Joined: 01 Dec 2000
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Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:47 AM
Still, this kind of approach seems very unethical and i would have some moral issues taking this kind of course, but i can understand people who do chose to act like that. I wouldn't want to take some poor applicant's spot like that... but again i don't judge people who do.

Good Luck

[Edited 02 Mar 2008 by Greg_08]
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kh

Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:53 PM
It is very likely that your admission will be cancelled and you may end up in a spot where having got admission into both NYU and HLS, you end up going to both.
Remember that all this schools have extremely good relations with each other, and ethics are strongly valued, so if NYU contacts HLS and informs them, it is very possible that HLS willr refuse admit the person - one who lies for them can lie to them.
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SophieB

Joined: 15 Feb 2008
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Sun Mar 02, 2008 01:22 PM
I just read that U of C Law school will inform other law schools if you do so....
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amicus

Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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Sun Mar 02, 2008 02:05 PM
I don't think much can be done to the person paying $500 deposit to schools like Columbia who later withdraws their admission to accept another school. He or she would lose the $500 and that would be his penalty for retracting his acceptance.

It's a very different story for those who were granted scholarship (ie. Hauser, Grotius, etc. from NYU) and were offered to accept the scholarship condition upon withdrawing all other pending application or retracting all other offers from other schools. I have heard from past applicants that NYU notifies other unis the names of the scholarship grantees. This person called Harvard and informed them that they had received a large scholarship from another uni and Harvard was aware of that already. My guess is that, upon request, Harvard will inform NYU whether or not the student with a scholarship has effectively withdrawn his or her application.

My point is, there is a reason why NYU wants all their scholarship grantees to sign a form. You may risk losing the a prestigious scholarship and not get into Harvard. That would be a huge risk to take.
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mnementh

Joined: 27 May 2007
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Sun Mar 02, 2008 02:53 PM
I guess nobody really withdraws... he waits and then will tell other unviersities that he rejects them, right ? Is there a difference ? I didn't get the scholarship, but the Award (partial), and I'm in the same dilemma. I mean, for crying out loud, what happens if YLS accepts me with full scholarship ? I can't explain thato NYU that money is also important here and that I made a mistake ?
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Samata

Joined: 28 Feb 2008
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Sun Mar 02, 2008 05:44 PM
Agree with amicus. For CLS the $500 is for securing a place and there is no language requiring one to withdraw applications from other schools.

As for NYU, the risk is there since it is explicit in your Intention to Enroll Form. However, I am not sure whether the schools really communicate. I knew an applicant from previous year who was admitted to NYU on a grant and subsequently was admitted to HLS. In general, HLS would not allow deferral if the admitted applicant chooses to attend other US law schools. This person attended NYU and asked for deferral from HLS and got it for family emergency reason.

My point is a lot of people do it and it doesn't seem a very wise choice for me to just wait for schools like HLS or YLS to accept your application without securing a place somewhere if you are serious about persuing you LLM this year. If you plan to do that why bother applying to many schools then.
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Greg_08


Joined: 01 Dec 2000
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Sun Mar 02, 2008 07:05 PM
Agree with amicus. For CLS the $500 is for securing a place and there is no language requiring one to withdraw applications from other schools.

As for NYU, the risk is there since it is explicit in your Intention to Enroll Form. However, I am not sure whether the schools really communicate. I knew an applicant from previous year who was admitted to NYU on a grant and subsequently was admitted to HLS. In general, HLS would not allow deferral if the admitted applicant chooses to attend other US law schools. This person attended NYU and asked for deferral from HLS and got it for family emergency reason.

My point is a lot of people do it and it doesn't seem a very wise choice for me to just wait for schools like HLS or YLS to accept your application without securing a place somewhere if you are serious about persuing you LLM this year. If you plan to do that why bother applying to many schools then.


Agreed.
Anyways, if you do get the $$$ at NYU, there is leatle sence in giving that up for the possibility of other schools. Honeslty, i would take the $$$ and go to NYU because otherwise it seems just unwise...
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mnementh

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Sun Mar 02, 2008 09:29 PM
I agree if it's full waiver but sometimes it's just partial , and other places will offer it too.
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kobayashimaru

Joined: 23 Jan 2008
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Mon Mar 03, 2008 07:48 AM
regards

[Edited 03 Mar 2008 by kobayashimaru]
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Greg_08


Joined: 01 Dec 2000
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Mon Mar 03, 2008 08:34 AM
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[Edited 03 Mar 2008 by Greg_08]
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Lucky

Joined: 14 Feb 2008
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Mon Mar 03, 2008 04:47 PM
The withdrawal of other applications upon payment of the 500 USD does not apply to CLS. Therefore I'm going to pay before March 10 and will see if I receive other better offers.
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Samata

Joined: 28 Feb 2008
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Tue Mar 04, 2008 08:20 AM
I once asked a professor who is a Harvard alumni and is very successful in this career in telecom regulation of what would be a better choice between (i) HLS admission and (ii) NYU admission with full tuition waiver. His answer was "definitly Harvard". His reason was that the advantange (monetary or otherwise) that you would get during your life-long carreer for being HLS alumni is far greater than 40K. Interesting remark.
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PNDCBW

Joined: 03 Mar 2008
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Tue Mar 04, 2008 01:54 PM
I am trying to find out if HLS will respond by email, post mail or both.
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L&E-pil

Joined: 08 Nov 2007
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Tue Mar 04, 2008 02:16 PM
I am trying to find out if HLS will respond by email, post mail or both.


Judging from previous years threads on the topic I think that HLS sends admissions by e-mail (and after a while you receive the admissions package by post) and rejections by post only.
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BDA

Joined: 28 Feb 2008
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Wed Mar 05, 2008 09:29 PM
I haven't heard anything from Harvard yet. Any chances of a "second wave" of admissions coming soon? when? Just waiting for Harvard and Berkeley so I can make a decision...
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Mr.Who?

Joined: 04 Mar 2008
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Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:02 PM
there hasn't been a "first wave" yet....I understand March 22 2008 is THE day....
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tchoummi

Joined: 10 Oct 2007
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Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:33 PM
Where did you hear that March 22, is THE day?

[Edited 05 Mar 2008 by tchoummi]
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Mr.Who?

Joined: 04 Mar 2008
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Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:40 PM
dmedvedev posted on February 28 that he received an email from Harvard that stated such info (actually it's the 21st). However last year same thing happened, Harvard responded in an email that march 22nd was THE day and it was earlier, on March 19th, the day when all admitted students received THE EMAIL! good luck to you all!
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Max1

Joined: 03 Feb 2008
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 03:37 PM
Mr. Who?:
Did all admitted students receive notification the same day last year?
Thanks
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lawadd08

Joined: 22 Dec 2007
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 04:00 PM
Well Max1.. I think Mr. Who ment all of the admitted students received email notification on the same day.
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gppinheiro

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 07:21 PM
Let's hope HLS surprises us and send out results earlier this year as well! Maybe tomorrow why not : ).
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The Counsel

Joined: 09 Dec 2007
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 07:47 PM
Dear gppinheiro

Do you know something that we don’t?

Thanx for your response!
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gppinheiro

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:32 PM
Nah! Just wishful thinking. Sorry if I misled you into something wrong Counsel. That wasn't my intent.
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The Counsel

Joined: 09 Dec 2007
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:40 PM
I just was fooling around!

Don’t worry
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Samata

Joined: 28 Feb 2008
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Fri Mar 07, 2008 08:23 AM
Called them up last night and got this email response.

Dear [],

Thank you for your call today regarding your upcoming deadline for Columbia on March 10, 2008. We are still processing decisions and this information will not be released until late March. However, given your pending offer of admission, we will do our best to provide you with as much information as possible before your deadline. A member of our Admissions staff will be in contact with you.

Kind regards,

Admissions staff

Who knows, today may come the first wave... last year thread suggested 7 is the charmed number!
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