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MarkBrasil

Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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Sat Mar 22, 2008 06:30 PM
Mr. Bender e/or Easter.

I believe there was a misunderstanding of my sentences above. What I noticed due the topic I proposed, is that most of the students applying are in their mid 20"s, and some are really young. Therefore, in my opinion (see, an opinion) I believe these students wouldn't get too much from their school especially with the change of professional experiences, which I think its important. It does not mean that they'll waste their time taking an LLM program. No way! I was just making an observation. The way you guys replied "no offence" or whatever, was quite disturbing. I never said that younger ones shouldn't take an LLM course, I just think they wont get too much from their course. If they get, great, congratulations, excellent!
Anyways, like I said it was just an observation. An opinion.
And yes, I am in my golden years and got a lot of background experience to share with everyone that it is interesed.
You guys need to chill out and smile. No ofence.
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MarkBrasil

Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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Sat Mar 22, 2008 06:39 PM
And Mr. Easter/Bender

in case you want to know, I have 3 graduate courses study levels after my LLB already. (5 years for my LLB and other 4 years of graduate studies in Public Law, International Trade and Taxation). I was thinking if an LLM abroad would be be worth it (I concluded yes). In my experience, the course I took last time was the one that I got the most of it, because I believe I was more experienced and so were my classmates. These 3 courses I took in Brazil correspond to more than 360 hour classes per year (for each year and they were 4), which is quite more than an LLM in US. I am just looking for an international experience.
Anywyas if you guys thought I was discouraging young ones to take an LLM you got the whole gist wrong.
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MarkBrasil

Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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Sat Mar 22, 2008 06:42 PM
Guys, I think everybody has got a portion of right in this dispute...

I can just tell you one thing from my point of view. I tested on myself what means on the one hand "working before studying" and on the other hand "studying before working".

I have worked since 2005 working on, and running, securities offering documents published under the US Securities Act. On the closing date of a standard deal (e.g., an issuance of shares), generally, a law firm (legal advisor of one party in the transaction) issues a "legal opinion" - often a so-called "10b-5 opinion".

Well, when I saw my first draft of such an opinion, I never studied Rule 10b-5 of the US Securities Act in a "Securities Regulation" course. But with the months, drafting and re-drafting, opinions over opinions, I could understand the real scope and purpose of this opinion, and its underlying legal foundation, i.e., the Rule 10b-5.

Morevoer, I had the chance to attend a "Corporations" course in Leiden - during the Columbia Summer Program - taught by a very good teacher, and there I got my first complete explanation of such a rule.
Very often, while listening to him, I realized that I had already lived certain factual situations that he was describing from a strict legal viewpoint.

In this sense, and in my specific case, a deeper study of "Securities Regulation" in an LL.M. may strenghten my "work-based" knowledge in this matter.

From the other point of view, it's certainly true that is quite difficult to a student without work experience that he may completely appreciate certain shades during the description of laws and rules that I described above.

That's it. Of course, without offence to anybody.

Best regards!


YOU ARE SO RIGHT!
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MarkBrasil

Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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Sat Mar 22, 2008 06:44 PM
To MarkBrazil

Dude, no offence, but whether a person gets more out of graduate studies will NOT depend on his/her age. I am 24/25, had 2 years exprience and truth be told: i have matured somewhat since I graduated from my LLB. However, I have met some 21 LLBs who are extremely intellegent and mature. They are insightful not just to legal analysis, but also towards personal relations/social interactions. At the very least, the admissions committee thought they were smart and mature enough to attend LLM classes with their older and "wiser" counterparts.


That is great. Still I think a more insight perspective regarding a bit of experience wouldn't be bad.
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MarkBrasil

Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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Sat Mar 22, 2008 06:48 PM
Mr. MarkBrazil;

I would expect a wiser, more worldly understanding from someone of your golden years; you're embarrassing us in front of the children.

You clearly can't say that a younger person will "get" less from a year of school than you will, unless you've attended an LL.M program every year since you turned 21, and concluded that the last three were significantly better than the first.

Mr. Easter is entirely correct in his outrage, and even more impressive in his ability to be two different ages at once.



Bender, like I said before, I attended other 4 years of study after my LLB program. I was young in the first and the latest course I took was the best one in my opinion, as I was older. Still I didn't say young ones shouldn't take an LLM program. If you got that, maybe you are just implying that I was correct then, as you probably didn't understand what I wrote.
Take it easy and sorry to ofend you in front of the children. kkkkkk
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ipsefixit

Joined: 21 Feb 2008
Posts: 20
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Sat Mar 22, 2008 06:48 PM
Guys, I think everybody has got a portion of right in this dispute...

I can just tell you one thing from my point of view. I tested on myself what means on the one hand "working before studying" and on the other hand "studying before working".

I have worked since 2005 working on, and running, securities offering documents published under the US Securities Act. On the closing date of a standard deal (e.g., an issuance of shares), generally, a law firm (legal advisor of one party in the transaction) issues a "legal opinion" - often a so-called "10b-5 opinion".

Well, when I saw my first draft of such an opinion, I never studied Rule 10b-5 of the US Securities Act in a "Securities Regulation" course. But with the months, drafting and re-drafting, opinions over opinions, I could understand the real scope and purpose of this opinion, and its underlying legal foundation, i.e., the Rule 10b-5.

Morevoer, I had the chance to attend a "Corporations" course in Leiden - during the Columbia Summer Program - taught by a very good teacher, and there I got my first complete explanation of such a rule.
Very often, while listening to him, I realized that I had already lived certain factual situations that he was describing from a strict legal viewpoint.

In this sense, and in my specific case, a deeper study of "Securities Regulation" in an LL.M. may strenghten my "work-based" knowledge in this matter.

From the other point of view, it's certainly true that is quite difficult to a student without work experience that he may completely appreciate certain shades during the description of laws and rules that I described above.

That's it. Of course, without offence to anybody.

Best regards!


YOU ARE SO RIGHT!


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Dauren

Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Posts: 15
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Mon Mar 24, 2008 03:15 PM
When applied I was 20, now admitted, 21. so, what`s the average? I think 26 will be correct!
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christabel

Joined: 26 Mar 2008
Posts: 9
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Sat Mar 29, 2008 08:04 PM
All of you !!!!

Right now am concerned about my age...what I am concerned about is the least amount of experience I have in comparison to all of you both academically and practically...I just have an LL.B. and 2 years work experience... !!! i dont why am worrying if am getting in on over my head...btw am 24!!..

All the best you guys...perspectives/opinion/advice/general blabber are welcome !! :-P


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christabel

Joined: 26 Mar 2008
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Sat Mar 29, 2008 08:05 PM
"Correction" -- right now am 'not' concerned about my age !!
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JPChes


Joined: 21 Apr 2008
Posts: 5
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Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:23 PM
i'm 21;)
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Nuy

Joined: 20 Jan 2008
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Fri Apr 25, 2008 03:09 PM
I'm 21 ..
sometimes i'm concerned about my age and the lack of experience, a lot of partners i know in my country said it's better to get an LLM once you're around 30 therefore you already have the experience to share and it's easier to understand the study..
but i'm going anyway this yeas as a fresh-grad,,
anyway i' gettin married next year so i wouldnt have a chance to pursue LLM if not now , i'd be busy raising kids & juggling work with married life,
amazed with those of you who are married and have kids and still managed to study for LLM , BRAVO!
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Scripes

Joined: 04 Apr 2007
Posts: 2
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Sat Apr 26, 2008 04:52 AM
I am 22, but at the time I get all set to apply (I am still coursing my Bachelors in Brazil), I would be 23.
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Humber

Joined: 01 Feb 2007
Posts: 40
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Fri May 16, 2008 08:46 PM
Personally, at 26, I just think this whole concept of "experience" is something old people just made up to pick on those who are younger and more promising:)
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