http://www.llm-guide.com/board/42634 en LLM admission USA - LLM GUIDE Discussion Board Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:15:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/42634/last#42634 Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:37:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/42634/last#42635 There is no LLM at Princeton. Re qualifications, you can find a lot of information on this site and on the law school websites. Start here: http://www.llm-guide.com/usa, visit the law school sites and they will tell you everything about admission requirements etc. Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:38:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/42634/last#42754 Maybe your daughter should find out for herself... If she's mature enough to be a lawyer and study an LLM, she should do the research herself and find out what differentiates one program from another... or whether she should really do an LLM. Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:13:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/42634/last#42784 I agree with Easter that you should let your daughter do the research. Having said that, I understand the anxiety of a parent (totally ignorant of LLM - example Princeton?!!?) who probably thinks that doing LLM in US is like doing MS after B Tech. So some comments... 1. What is her objective of doing LLM in US? Higher education? If so, forget it, she will study one year alongside their final (and maybe prefinal) year JDs (their equivalent of LLB). Cambridge / Oxford would be better for that line. 2. If her objective is for getting work in US then LLM in US is the right approach, then the chances are downright bleak if she doesn't have some good experience (say 2 yrs+). Top5 places like Stanford, Harvard, Columbia will not consider her application without experience, Yale might, but that is an academically oriented program. NYU will admit without exp., but very poor job prospects without exp. 3. If you have a lot of money to blow (~75K USD), then she can look at the next level - Penn, Georgetown, Duke, Northwestern, Michigan, Cornell, Berkeley, etc But without good experience she is Zilch, anyway. 4. Qualifying from NLS LLB will get her a premium placement in India (or in UK). One year spent for LLM immediately will not have any relevance for an employer, no seniority will be granted in India or elsewhere. (Some people do LLM after qualifying LLB from a lower level institution in their country to upgrade their LLB.) 5. Many alumnus from NLS are already doing LLM in CLS / Harvard after 2+ years exp. She could talk to them and get real time information. So, trust her judgement!! Sorry if I was rude at times, but all the best!! Sun, 16 Mar 2008 05:46:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/42634/last#42792 Thanks. A vice chancellor of a local univ told me about Princeton. What we have been discussing amongst ourselves is HLS,Yale or Stanford and the likes.These are the ones that have the major profile.I do know about the work ex clause. She has done at least six months of serious internship (in several parts),thats the only workex she has. Money is not a major issue.Yet I would like to know about avaialbity of Scholarsips also.She is not intrested in working straight away. She has better internet search skills than myself. Yet I do pitch in. PLEASE INFORM IF THERE ARE ANY QUALIFYING EXAMS FOR LLM. Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:29:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/42634/last#42801 Apart from having an equivalent of JD in your home country (LL.B., for instance) and TOEFL, there is no additional exams or testing required… Her admission will be based on a variety of factors, such as her first law degree grades, experience, personal statement, recommendations and other similar factors… Hope it helps… Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:58:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/42634/last#42806 MMend is right, no entrance exam for LLM. LSAT is only for JD admissions. Internships are not counted as experience, they will ask for post LLB work exp. Important will be the LLB GPAs, (Atleast 3 out of 4, better if you have near 3.5), very strong writing for the samples asked for (statement of purpose, legal problem, etc.), and strong recommendations from her law school professors (other recommendations are of no value, even if from CJI), and relevant work experience. I suggest Penn Law (rank 6), or Cornell (rank ~10), they will have some recognition because of Ivy league status. NYU is OK at rank 5 too. Others (Yale, etc will be too much to target without exp unless she has top gpas and ranks 1 or 2 in her class now. Scholarships and aids at these places are hard to come by, lower ranked schools will provide better opportunities for aid. All the best!! Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:36:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/42634/last#42817 Hi Kuldip (a) there is no qualifying examination for LL.M admission in USA; However, she should take Toefl. (b) scholarships : many of the schools have scholarships from Yale/HLS onwards - the candidate should better check information from the school's websites at the time of applying; she may consider applying to about 15 schools out of the top 50 in Tier I. (c) timing : it is better to apply for LL.M in USA following year (or later) after doing LL.B; she should better enrol herself as an "advocate" in India after LL.B before applying for LL.M. Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:21:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/42634/last#42829 Thanks for all the information given. Another question that I'd like to ask is that since most of the law firms who come to India for recruitment are from UK , is LLM in UK a better idea vis-a-vis USA? Would job prospects in UK be even, say 5% more in UK with an LLM from UK as compared to job prospects in USA with an LLM from USA ? SO, IS UK BETTER THAN USA FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS DONE A BA LLB FROM INDIA? Mon, 17 Mar 2008 06:12:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/42634/last#42882 As far as I know, before getting regular employment with a UK lawfirm, 2 years post qualification work exp is needed. Fresh LLBs from India are taken as trainee associates at about half the regular pay, and only then they are given regular grades. With an LLM (either UK, or US) I don't think this status will change. However you can check with people who have already gone to UK from NLS after LLB.