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Flo

Joined: 21 Apr 2005
Posts: 7
Environmental Law
Fri Apr 22, 2005 08:47 PM
Anybody is making a JSD or LLM in Environmental Law?
I am finishing law school and planning to apply this year. Which university offers the best LLM program?
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peggyw77

Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Posts: 67
Re: Environmental Law
Fri Apr 22, 2005 09:41 PM
Hi,

These are the top three according to USNews: (I don't have complete access)
1. Lewis and Clark College (Northwestern) (OR)
2. Vermont Law School
3. Pace University (NY)

These three are not top law schools according to general law school rankings. If you care a lot about the general ranking, you should probably consider schools famous for IP programs too. Some of those IP-prestigious law schools also have environmental law programs, such as George Washington University, etc.

Hope this helps. Good luck!
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peggyw77

Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Posts: 67
Re: Environmental Law
Fri Apr 22, 2005 09:46 PM
oh...I have some clarifications to make:
I made the above sugesstions just because I think environmetal law has something to do with IP and corporations laws.
Of course I cannot overlook other aspects of environmental law issues such as int'l trades or human rights, etc. So maybe you would also like to consider some, i.g., int'l law-prestigious schools, etc. You may also want to take into consideration the proximity of some int'l environmetal organizations too.
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yoda

Joined: 05 Apr 2005
Posts: 3
Re: Environmental Law
Mon Apr 25, 2005 09:17 AM
without a doubt, lewis and clark has the best environmental LLM programme in the US. You should also look at the University of Denver website (although Denver has more of a natural resources focus as opposed to pure environmental law).
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bhp

Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 26
Re: Environmental Law
Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:20 PM
Yoda, I would have to disagree. Vermont has been ranked number one more times in the last ten years than Lewis and Clark, although they alternate a lot. If you want to live in a city, go to Lewis and Clark, if you want to go to the only rural law school in the U.S., go to Vermont. On Vermont's campus you can trout fish, or hike up a mountain. Also, if you want to work in DC or on the east coast, go to Vermont, and on the West coast, go to Lewis and Clark. Both are very comparable, but one is not clearly better than the other.
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PB

Joined: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 12
Re: Environmental Law
Mon Apr 25, 2005 06:10 PM
I suggest :

University of Sydney : LLM in Environmental Law or MESL Masters in Environmental Science and Law (though Germans scoff at the idea of a one-year program for both science and law)
UCL or the University of Kent - check this, I might be wrong - LLM in Environmental Law

HOWEVER, do try to check out too the excellent UCL program Masters in Environment and Development (also University of York, LSE, Univ. of Edinburgh (good ones in the environment !), etc. Then apply to the UN after 2 years work experience abroad :)
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PB

Joined: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 12
Re: Environmental Law
Mon Apr 25, 2005 06:12 PM
P.S.

I forgot Duke University in the US for environmental programs- check out Nicholas School, Duke University. It is not an LLM, but perhaps a masters in environmental science. The training in Duke is excellent. It doesnt matter if your masters is in environmental management or in science since relatively speaking, environmental law is quite young.
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Flo

Joined: 21 Apr 2005
Posts: 7
Re: Environmental Law
Mon Apr 25, 2005 09:03 PM
Thaks!!! I really appreciate your comments! Is someone doing a LLM in Environmental Law or something related with?

Do you know some web sites about SJD/JSD (like LLM Guide)? I am also interested in it but I can't find any information on the internet.
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sage

Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Posts: 41
Re: Environmental Law
Mon Apr 25, 2005 09:27 PM
Just to let you know that if your considering going to Vermont Law School be warned that it is literally in the middle of no where. South Royalton, Vermont is a village a couple of miles off the main highway where there is absolutely nothing to do other than look at cows, drink heavily and study. It is probably the best school to get straight A's and learn a great deal. A couple of years back when I was at the law school for an exam, there was no sewage system at the school, but it did have modern facilities.
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bhp

Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 26
Re: Environmental Law
Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:36 PM
Vermont Law School is awesome though. The people (both professors and students) are incredibly cool and interesting, and the eco atmosphere is unparalleled. You can live on a farm, shop at an organic market, ski, swim, fish, hike, etc. all while learning the law. Also, the student body is incredibly diverse. But, there are only two bars in the town, and for good dining, you have to drive 20 minutes.
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Jar

Joined: 05 Jun 2005
Posts: 6
Re: Re: Environmental Law
Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:44 AM
Anyone know anything about Pace Law? I heard it's in 3rd tier but it's ranking in environmental law ranks number 3.
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JohnBonine

Joined: 30 Jan 2006
Posts: 12
The Oregon LLM in Environmental Law
Sun Feb 12, 2006 02:17 PM
The University of Oregon has announced its LL.M. in Environmental and Natural Resources Law for 2006.

The University of Oregon has one of the best-known environmental law programs in the world -- just ask anyone who is actually practicing or teaching environmental law in Asia, Middle East, Latin America, Africa.

More information at www.law.uoregon.edu/LLM or
http://www.law.uoregon.edu/LLM or write to llm@uoregon.edu

[Edited 12 Feb 2006 by JohnBonine]
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Taxpro

Joined: 26 Mar 2006
Posts: 3
DU LLM
Mon Mar 27, 2006 01:22 PM
Definately check out Denver website. They have hired excellent faculty and moved to the new 70 million dollar first green building in the nation.
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Misha

Joined: 19 Apr 2006
Posts: 1
DU LLM
Thu Apr 20, 2006 03:06 AM
I have attended both Oregon and Denver, and Denver is definitely superior. Oregon's program seemed theory-oriented whereas at Denver the program reflects the fact that the faculty is a mix of full time profs and very savvy adjuncts. And the adjuncts have tremendous local experience and connections. In addition, there are many opportunities for internships to build on specializations in water law, oil, gas, mining and land use. The Denver region has over two million people as compared to Eugene, which is comparatively very small. Denver therefore provides many more chances to work in firms or agencies (for example, the Denver Federal Center has thousands of US Government employees at Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, US Geological Survey, etc.) Eugene has no comparable set of agencies or law firms specializing in natural resources use and management. If theory is what you seek, go to Eugene. If practice and actual problem solving experience is what you want, it's Denver. The Tenth Circuit is here as well as a US District Court so there's always lots going on. Denver, simply put, provides a far more practical experience.

[Edited 20 Apr 2006 by Misha]
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Catullus

Joined: 19 Oct 2006
Posts: 34
DU LLM
Wed Jan 10, 2007 07:16 PM
I would vote for Vermont Law School above all others when it comes to environmental law. You can't beat them, and the atmosphere is truly unique.
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JohnBonine

Joined: 30 Jan 2006
Posts: 12
DU LLM (and Oregon)
Sun Feb 04, 2007 08:56 PM
I have attended both Oregon and Denver, and Denver is definitely superior. Oregon's program seemed theory-oriented . . . If theory is what you seek, go to Eugene. If practice and actual problem solving experience is what you want, it's Denver.


I just noticed this, and it contains generalizations that have no support in the facts.

The University of Oregon's environmental program is one of the strongest in the world -- and probably has more intensely practical features than any other (while also having the theoretical components provided by a faculty of authors who both teach and write in environmental law).

The first Environmental Law Clinic in the world was created at the University of Oregon, more than 30 years ago. Students appear in courts and before federal agencies to argue cases on behalf of clients in environmental law. UO law professors established the Western Environmental Law Center (WELC)(www.westernlaw.org) to run the Clinic, and WELC has grown to be one of the most active environmental law firms in the United States (with satellite offices also in New Mexico and the mountains of Colorado).

The most famous public interest conference in the world (www.pielc.org) started 24 years ago at Oregon and now attracts 2,000 participants over four days each March.

The world's largest and most activist network of environmental lawyers -- the Environmental Law Alliance Worldwide (http:///www.elaw.org) was created by University of Oregon faculty members, is based in Eugene, and takes UO law students as interns who work with more than 200 lawyers in more than 60 countries.

Students from UO's environmental law program take internships and externships in both law firms and federal and state government agencies in Eugene, nearby Salem, and Portland -- as well as all over the United States and world in the summer. Students work on human rights reports and have traveled to United Nations commissions as part of their education.

The University of Denver also has fine teachers and students, who are our friends. So do many other law schools. But for practical (as well as theoretical) education, the University of Oregon is clearly a leader.
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JohnBonine

Joined: 30 Jan 2006
Posts: 12
DU LLM (and Oregon)
Sun Feb 04, 2007 08:58 PM
for practical (as well as theoretical) education, the University of Oregon is clearly a leader.


I should have provided the web link for our LL.M. Program, and given my name:

www.law.uoregon.edu/LLM

John E. Bonine
Professor of Law
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Janice Weis

Joined: 05 Feb 2007
Posts: 4
DU LLM (and Oregon)
Tue Feb 06, 2007 08:05 PM
Just a quick note to say DU and UO both have strong programs. We hope you will also consider Lewis & Clark Law School's LLM in Environmental & Natural Resources Law. Lewis & Clark is located in Portland, Oregon and we offer a comprehensive and nationally-recognized LLM program in both environmental and natural resources issues. For more info, visit law.lclark.edu/dept/elaw or feel free to contact me directly at jweis@lclark.edu
Regards,
Janice Weis
Assistant Dean & Director
Environmental & Natural Resources Law
Lewis & Clark Law School
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