http://www.llm-guide.com/board/44631 en QMUL OR DURHAM - LLM GUIDE Discussion Board Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:01:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/44631/last#44631 How would you rate QMUL for LLM in Commercial & Corporate Law? How would you compare it to Durham's International Trade and Commercial Law? Just tell me QMUL OR DURHAM with reasons please Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:48:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/44631/last#44828 This is not a post for people to just look at. Guyies reply with some answer if you know even something. Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:10:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/44631/last#44832 I answered you already!!!! I would personally go to Durham!. You know that they have their own Commercial law Institute up there. It is a top University with excellent faculty. QM sounds also good, but personally I would chose Durham. A law firm would regard both as good, probably in London Durham is demand from every law firm. Partners, trainees and associates are graduates from Durham and some firms just like graduates from there. QM a good school with a very international marketing strategy and it is an LLM from London, but in London I think there are better schools, such as UCL and LSE. Don't go to London just because it is London. Durham has a huge name in the UK and abroad as well. I did not apply to QM, instead I chosen to apply to Manchester, which I believe is a better school and with a good course selection. In London I only applied for UCL!! But from the three, I am tending to go to Durham! Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:15:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/44631/last#44844 So you are also planning to go to Durham this year? Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:43:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/44631/last#44845 Well, from the options that I have I am going to consider Durham.! UCL probably if I get the funding I am expecting To be honest, I think the entrance requirements in Durham are higher than in QM! Not to take the merit out of QM, which is a great school as well, but for my personal view in London I would attend other schools and outside London, def Durham or Manchester! Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:11:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/44631/last#44872 Personally i would choose Durham. It's LLM degree focuses specifically on Commercial Law and has many more specialists in that field. Cost of living is cheaper too. Also city firms love Durham - you will find that many of the partners studied there. Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:27:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/44631/last#44875 Couldnīt agree more than you Homer. Even a Professor of mine from Boston University recommended Durham!!!! He never heard about UCL lol Sat, 05 Apr 2008 01:03:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/44631/last#44881 That is quite surprising - most British students like myself would normally put UCL ahead of Durham. I suspect your Professor is probably a big fan of Bill Bryson!! :-) I am rather surprised also - and a little worried - that your Professor has never heard of UCL! Just speaking personally I would rank UCL ahead of Durham for most subjects. But obviously Durham is still a good university. Couldnīt agree more than you Homer. Even a Professor of mine from Boston University recommended Durham!!!! He never heard about UCL lol Sat, 05 Apr 2008 03:24:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/44631/last#44886 Listen when I mention UCL he did not know what it stand for!! When I told him, he still said... your best bet is Durham. This guy teaches in Boston University and is a Harvard graduate!!! UCL is good as well. Sat, 05 Apr 2008 03:48:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/44631/last#44888 I don't care which university this Professor has graduated from! :-) What does he know about universities in the UK? You can go and ask any recruiter for law firms IN THE UK and the vast majority will agree that UCL has the better law school - at the very least the rankings bare this out. Especially for a subject like commercial law - UCL can condense its own specialist areas into Banking Law for example - Durham simply cannot compete with it. Durham is good but I am afraid if you ask most lawyers in the UK they would agree that UCL is a better university. And this is the view that the majority of the Common Law world would take. By the way I have worked as a law lecturer in the United Kingdom for three years. I have acted as a mock interview co-ordinator for students and I know what law firms in the City of London are looking for. At least I have given you my reasons for saying UCL is better - I think you ought to ask your Professor what he bases his judgement on? Has he any experience of law in the UK - teaching or otherwise? I rather doubt it because he wouldn't have told you what he has. I think your Professor is more impressed by the architecture - the cathedral - and the convivial surroundings or is a big fan of Bill Bryson! :-) Finally, I was BORN and live 10 miles away from Durham and I know about the university - my mother was a student there! :-) She loved it! :-) I have visited the campus and attended guest lectures more times than I care to remember. But I would still choose UCL for Commercial Law. Listen when I mention UCL he did not know what it stand for!! When I told him, he still said... your best bet is Durham. This guy teaches in Boston University and is a Harvard graduate!!! UCL is good as well. Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:52:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/44631/last#44902 He knows what he knows. He does not have to know anything about UK programs. I am not saying one is better that the other. I am saying that he knows Durham!!!! He lived in the UK and worked in energy law for British Petroleum, so he lived in north London for a while. I am not saying UCL is not good.!! He just knows one and not the other. I don't deny that the faculty in one is very impressive and the other less impressive. Of course the teaching is going to be good as most of the lecturers are partners or judges or whatever it is that you are referring. I don't know his judgment basis is on, and to be honest I don't care. I guess its just name wise. The question is not what firms are looking for. The firms look for a whole package and you know that. But UCL is a very good choice, I applied there as well!! so don't get all nervous about it :P Sun, 06 Apr 2008 01:48:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/44631/last#44941 I have to say that I still find your Professor's advice rather strange. If he worked for BP and lived in North London I find it incredulous that he has such a high opinion of Durham and yet according to your earlier post "he didn't know what UCL stood for." And yet he lived in London?! I find that rather strange. All I would say is take this Professor's advice with caution. And I am sorry to disagree with you. You may not think that there is a big difference between UCL and Durham - but I do. Based on my experience UCL is still a long way ahead of Durham in terms of national and international reputation. He knows what he knows. He does not have to know anything about UK programs. I am not saying one is better that the other. I am saying that he knows Durham!!!! He lived in the UK and worked in energy law for British Petroleum, so he lived in north London for a while. I am not saying UCL is not good.!! He just knows one and not the other. I don't deny that the faculty in one is very impressive and the other less impressive. Of course the teaching is going to be good as most of the lecturers are partners or judges or whatever it is that you are referring. I don't know his judgment basis is on, and to be honest I don't care. I guess its just name wise. The question is not what firms are looking for. The firms look for a whole package and you know that. But UCL is a very good choice, I applied there as well!! so don't get all nervous about it :P Sun, 06 Apr 2008 02:24:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/44631/last#44943 It is not strange!!! It is true He did not know what UCL was, until I told him. I don't care about what is ahead of what. Both are good schools. In his view he recommended me Durham. No argument there. But I agree that UCL is good and better than Durham, the rankings and the faculty don't lie!!!! American professors don't know much about UK courses, even more LLM's they just don't. He gave his advice and that's what matters. Of course, I am considering both schools!!!! We both know that a degree in London is a huge difference, specially because of the name of the schools and bla bla. Lawyers and the profession love that and it is part of it. In the end, people chose the course they want to study and thats it. The name for some people, not you, is very important!!! I guess with the quality of all these courses the differences are so tenuous that I don't see much of a difference. If ask those professors about Oxford and Cambridge, well they do know those and very well as they have exchange programmes between schools in the US and in the UK. The fact that he doesn't know does not make a difference, it is an exception, so don't be so surprised because the academia in the United States is extremely different from the UK. Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:16:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/44631/last#48116 Durham University should only be compared to the other two collegiate universities, i.e. Oxford and Cambridge. The others are all "wannabes"!!! Only in coming and being part of the Durham tradition would you realise how POSH the university is! :-) Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:52:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/44631/last#48243 hi all... done my law graduation from mumbai. want to do LLM. ADVICE on few competitive universities. how abt UCL?