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Joined: 03 Jan 2008
Posts: 15
UCL or KCL
Sun Jun 22, 2008 06:29 PM
which is better for the LLM??
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Adhémar

Joined: 29 Jun 2008
Posts: 5
UCL or KCL
Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:38 AM
Hi,
Which one you prefer?
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dIvy@

Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Posts: 4
UCL or KCL
Tue Jul 01, 2008 02:01 PM
ucl ofcourse has a higher ranking..
but im pretty surprised nottingham, edinburgh and arbeeden is ranked so high!
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KYSK

Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Posts: 19
UCL or KCL
Tue Jul 01, 2008 04:44 PM
According to TIme 2009 Law, King's is higher than UCL in Law.
extras.timesonline.co.uk/tol_gug/gooduniversitygui…
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dIvy@

Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Posts: 4
UCL or KCL
Wed Jul 02, 2008 03:06 AM
well i guess then the rankings differ all the time...

ucl acts more pricy though even regarding the criteria of meeting the ielts score of 7.5 i got 7.0 both times and they havent considered it...

but if i had to choose i would still go for ucl...
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Adhémar

Joined: 29 Jun 2008
Posts: 5
UCL or KCL
Wed Jul 02, 2008 07:53 AM
indeed, Nevertheless, according to the two rankings provided by theGuardian and Time, KCL seems to be better than UCL. Am so confused.
However, do you know whether it is still possible to take one or two courses in an other college than the one you choose.?
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Leanne

Joined: 27 Jun 2008
Posts: 5
UCL or KCL
Wed Jul 02, 2008 08:36 AM
It may depend on your specialisation, but I am not familar with the modules KCL offers.

But in general, I think it is quite well established that the top universities are OxBridge, then UCL & LSE.

The rankings differ greatly due to the different factors that are taken into account, the weight they are given, and also the different methods employed. Sometimes they may be able to provide some guidance, but I would say all the rankings are questionable at best. I have yet to see a post with the question "Oxford or Aberdeen" for a general BCL/LLM.

Adhémar, some universities accept visiting students. You can have a look on their websites.

[Edited 02 Jul 2008 by Leanne]
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MariArti


Joined: 21 Feb 2008
Posts: 67
UCL or KCL
Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:42 AM
I think that you can rely on ranking only with respect to Oxbridge. Their ranks never change (well, almost).

When I had to decide between UCL and KCL in February, all ranking stood on proority of UCL. 4 months have pasted and the rankings have changed. So what now, do I have to make other choice?.. I think not.

You will never know what's best, untic you look though the list of offerd courses and professors. I think that for my area, Banking and Finance, UCL is better than UCL. Then you should consider such points as accomodation, tutorial fees etc.

Good luck for you on your choice.

[Edited 04 Jul 2008 by MariArti]
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Adhémar

Joined: 29 Jun 2008
Posts: 5
UCL or KCL
Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:07 PM
Thank you!!
Am accepted at UCL and Kings for a LLM.
Therefore, i indeed must have a look on the lists of the subjects and Professors
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MariArti


Joined: 21 Feb 2008
Posts: 67
UCL or KCL
Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:35 PM
Adhemar,

please note to one more important point - english language requirements. UCL requires 7.5 on IELTS test and KCL requires only 7.0. Sometimes these 0.5 points are very hard to get.

Regards,
Maria
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Adhémar

Joined: 29 Jun 2008
Posts: 5
UCL or KCL
Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:40 PM
Indeed!
Nevertheless, is it still possible de take one or two courses in an other Uni (UCL,QM, KCL, SOAS) than the one you chose?
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MariArti


Joined: 21 Feb 2008
Posts: 67
UCL or KCL
Thu Jul 03, 2008 01:16 PM
Adhemar,

No, it is not possible. From 2008 intercollege llm programme was cancelled. You are now limited only to the courses of your own university.
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Ben_Tlse

Joined: 14 Apr 2008
Posts: 12
UCL or KCL
Thu Jul 03, 2008 08:24 PM
Hi there,
I accepted an unconditional offer from KCL but I am wondering if it could be possible to withdraw it later without being commited to pay the fees ?
Help would be much appreciated since I am quite confused with that !
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MariArti


Joined: 21 Feb 2008
Posts: 67
UCL or KCL
Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:33 AM
Ben_Tlse,

you ask here for an answer for a very important qustion, which in fact will have effect on YOUR money. I can say that "once upon a time a friend of my friend accepted KCL offer and then went to UCl (without any penalties from KCL's side)". And would you believe me?..

For every such question, which is not theoretical and would have effect on you, my advise is to contact KCL directly.

You do not have to say that you are waiting for a better offer, just explain them that you might not have an ability to attend you classes due to some personal matters and there is an option you may decline their offer in September.

I am sure, they will answer and such answer will be an official position.

Regards,
Maria

[Edited 04 Jul 2008 by MariArti]
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Abhinavs

Joined: 18 Apr 2008
Posts: 11
UCL or KCL
Fri Jul 04, 2008 05:21 PM
hi people..

Please some one clarify whats with the rankings.. I accepted the UCL offer basing my decision on the ranking.. now they are saying KCL is better.. What am i to do now?? I am confused...!!!!

Thanks
Abhinav
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cowboyblues

Joined: 18 Dec 2005
Posts: 73
UCL or KCL
Sun Jul 06, 2008 08:17 PM
Well relying on rankings to determine which university you choose is pretty silly...as they go up and down (sorry if I sound patronising). For some reason, lots of people on here seem absolutely obsessed with the ranking that are to a certain extent subjectively produced by UK newspapers.

Both UCL and KCL are great universities, and leading universities of the University of London. You won't go wrong choosing either. So put ranking concerns to one side, and pick the one that is best suited to the LLM courses you are choosing. Eg. for legal theory go to UCL, for competition law go to KCL etc.

[Edited 06 Jul 2008 by cowboyblues]
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cowboyblues

Joined: 18 Dec 2005
Posts: 73
UCL or KCL
Sun Jul 06, 2008 09:16 PM
"It may depend on your specialisation, but I am not familar with the modules KCL offers.

But in general, I think it is quite well established that the top universities are OxBridge, then UCL & LSE."

UCL and LSE are not necessarily any better than KCL. All form part of the 'golden triangle' (if we are to take any notice of that category). Depending on the specialisation of the LLM, SOAS or QMUL (CCLS) are also contenders.

[Edited 06 Jul 2008 by cowboyblues]
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Abhinavs

Joined: 18 Apr 2008
Posts: 11
UCL or KCL
Mon Jul 07, 2008 07:49 AM
Thanks cowboyblues,

well it seems you are right. Which univ do u think is best for Corporate, banking, Commercial?

Thanks..
abhinav
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meghapurohit

Joined: 19 Mar 2008
Posts: 7
UCL or KCL
Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:29 AM
join da gang than ucl is acting like such an ass cos of 7.0 in ielts i got a call from kcl but m still tryin for ucl n thy r goin insane over a .5.wonder what differnce a point 5 will make in my english language.........

ucl acts more pricy though even regarding the criteria of meeting the ielts score of 7.5 i got 7.0 both times and they havent considered it...

but if i had to choose i would still go for ucl...

[Edited 08 Jul 2008 by meghapurohit]
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Abhinavs

Joined: 18 Apr 2008
Posts: 11
UCL or KCL
Tue Jul 08, 2008 07:22 PM
guys.. i have seen many people talking about ielts and there problems in getting 7.5.. is it so hard?? i gave toefl it was fairly easy. i got 112 in the ibit test.. why don't u guys also give it a try.. i think toefl is easier..

best of luck..
abhinav
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meghapurohit

Joined: 19 Mar 2008
Posts: 7
UCL or KCL
Wed Jul 09, 2008 09:31 AM
thrs not much time left to retake an exam so i guess i will stick to kcl........its above ucl right now for law n dats what matters .....or m i just consolin myself
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LJ

Joined: 20 Apr 2008
Posts: 7
UCL or KCL
Wed Jul 09, 2008 01:14 PM
Hi everyone,

How funny to read these posts:) most of them sound so much like me "holding an unconditional offer from KCL, having 7.0 in IELTS- having conditional offer from UCL and finally which one is better, taking in consideration that it is so unattractive to take another test in this midsummer time?!":)
I guess no one tried to ask for a waiver in regards of the English Language Requirement fulfillment? Do you think it is not worth it? That is what i did with KCL actually and they accepted it and released me from the TEST torture :)
will be happy to hear any clever comments on the issue of discussion:)
LJ
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Abhinavs

Joined: 18 Apr 2008
Posts: 11
UCL or KCL
Wed Jul 09, 2008 03:27 PM
hi LJ,

The problem i guess is that UCL does not accept the English Language Waiver request, atleast that is what they say.. especially in law.. i guess that is the reason why such a thing has not happened..

Cheers..
Abhinav
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meghapurohit

Joined: 19 Mar 2008
Posts: 7
UCL or KCL
Wed Jul 09, 2008 06:24 PM
dude LJ.....if u are so sure about ur clever comments thn why dint u try ur luck at UCL.....mean if u are so smart than u cud have easily asked for a waiver thr too rite.........
if u read da posts clearly than da discussion for da IELTS score is for UCL and not KCL
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LJ

Joined: 20 Apr 2008
Posts: 7
UCL or KCL
Thu Jul 10, 2008 09:13 AM
Hey there meghapurohit,
First of all I am not a dude,I am more of a girl:)
Secondly, I did not mean to offend anyone and if you clearly read my post, it was a pure question not a hint or something, I wondered if anyone has tried the trick with waiver thing and if anyone succeeded:)
And finally I do not think that anyone can let himself be so arrogant, here at this forum, since one should understand how much tension is on everyones side and that this kinda replies are pretty useless:)
Good luck everyone with all you do and happy to help if needed.
LJ
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