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chazb

Joined: 27 Aug 2008
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 08:25 PM
No need to get snippy, PN. I think everyone can agree that the choice of LLM program is specific to the individual. If you really want to be of assistance to those asking about LLM programs, provide some specifics as opposed to bald assertions that U of T is "better". Yawning is not a particularly convincing rebuttal.
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Bender


Joined: 17 Jan 2008
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 09:05 PM
"I think U of T-ers tend to confuse an expensive education with a quality education."

Yawning might not be the most convincing rebuttal to a good point, but it's probably an appropriate one to yours.

And there's clearly a need to get snippy (That's what anonymous forums are for). Your basis for propping up Osgood is apparently that your professors had a lot of spare time on their hands (Not a lot of journals banging down the doors?), while the death knell for the entire University of Toronto Faculty of Law is that some people you know complained about it.

If you really want to be of assistance to those asking about LLM programs (my most fervent desire), you should probably provide some (non-specious) specifics as opposed to bald assertions that Osgood is "a really good deal - like saving 25% on a can of soup because it's dented."
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Paddy Nolan

Joined: 27 Feb 2008
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 09:07 PM
Chazb,

Your personal attack on the intelligence of UofT students does not warrant a 'convincing' rebuttal. Indeed, in the circumstances, I thought a single four letter word was more than adequate to pierce such a thin veil.

For what it's worth, it would have been quite simple for you to rephrase your own bald assertion as a question: is the added cost of UofT worth it? Now that is a legitimate question and one certainly of importance to many prospective LLMs. Instead, you took the rather perplexing tack of insulting the intelligence of what are, by all objective standards, a pretty bright group of people.

As I have articulated what I believe to be the specific merits of UofT elsewhere on this site, I will refrain from repeating myself. That said, I encourage Chazb, for the edification of prospective LLMs, to do the same for Osgoode. We already know about the architecture and location, what about the quality of graduate administration, flexibility of graduate programs, access to thesis advisors and other faculty, opportunities to assist in faculty research, job and internship prospects, etc.?

Cheers,

Paddy
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chazb

Joined: 27 Aug 2008
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:27 PM
Bender - it's "Osgoode". With an "e".

Of course U of T students are bright, Paddy. I never said they weren't. But you have to admit (unless you're completely deluding yourself) that price of tuition is closely linked with quality of education in the minds of many. That doesn't make them stupid. I was simply cautioning against getting sucked in by the U of T marketing machine. I'm sure there are plenty of other reasons to go there. I'm not going to bother to comb this site to find your other posts detailing the merits of U of T, but I'll take your word for it.

As for the merits of Osgoode, I'm sure they're also detailed on this site, as well as on Osgoode's website. I'm only familiar with the professional LLM, which obviously offers the flexibility of part-time study and distance education, as well as a wide range of specialties. For my situation, it offered the best alternative. My partner did the regular graduate program at Osgoode and had a wonderful experience with his supervision committee, got to teach research and writing as well as a law course at York, and got to do research with a prominent labour law scholar.

Sorry to have ruffled your feathers, boys. Deep breaths - it's the long weekend.

Cheers.
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Syniu

Joined: 14 Sep 2008
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Mon Sep 15, 2008 07:02 AM
Definitely also add the Hebrew University of Jerusalem... experienced school with some famous Jewish scholars and many great visiting professors every year.
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guest12345

Joined: 25 Oct 2008
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Sun Oct 26, 2008 04:06 AM
I wish comments came from students of quoted universities. The reference to Oxford demonstrates ignorance. Have you ever heard of the 1 or 2 year BCL or that non-commonwealth other degree?

What specialisation have you in mind? A graduate degree in law assumes a prior knowledge. An LLM is not magic. You bring content.

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Bender


Joined: 17 Jan 2008
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Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:12 AM
What?
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P_Martini

Joined: 28 Sep 2006
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Tue Oct 28, 2008 03:31 AM
Not in the know.
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