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Yuryst Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 7	LLM In Germany Sun Nov 09, 2008 04:06 PM At the moment I am exploring the possibility of undertaking LLM degree course in Germany. I hold undergraduate degree in law with honours and am proficient in English (absolutely don't know German). I am looking for LLM courses in Germany which I can apply to possessing such background. I have found a lot of programmes but most of them are qiute expensive. Could you help me to find other programmes (if they exist) bearing in mind that DAAD, scholarship of which I intend to receive, cover only 500 Euro of tuition fee per a term (plus I can contribute not more than 1000 Euro). And also. What can you say about LLM International and European Business Law programme of Rheinische Fachhochschule Köln (Cologne) and Anglia Polytechnic University in Cambridge. Is it worth undertaking? I do not like the thing that British partner is very low ranked. [Edited by Yuryst on 09 Nov 2008]
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TiGGer Joined: 11 May 2007 Posts: 104	LLM In Germany Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:14 PM In which field do you want to do your LLM? I would not go to the German "University" you mentioned as it is not really a University, but a "University of Applied Science" (Fachhochschule), which means much lower in academic standard. If you want to study in Cologne (Köln), go to the University of Cologone (Universität zu Köln). This one is really good, however, it is also HUGE: 60,000 students! If you don't speak German, consider the LLM at Saarland University or the ILF Frankfurt. The last one, however, is very expensive and competitive. From which country are you from?
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Yuryst Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 7	LLM In Germany Thu Nov 13, 2008 08:22 AM The problem is that University of Cologone (Universität zu Köln) does not offer LLM Programmes taught in English. Excellent German skills are one of the prerequisuities to study there as well as in most of other universities. However, at this moment I do not know German at all. What concerns ILF Frankfurt, as you said, it is very expensive (DAAD scholarship does not cover tuition fee in amount not more than 500 Euro). I may say the same about other English language LLM Programmes as well. I am really interested in European law, so LLM at Saarland University is one I am considering to apply. But are there any other programmes taught in English which are not very expensive (not more than 1500-2000 Euro per term)? I want to do my LLM in fields connected with European or International Law, primarily bussiness, finance, trade regulation at this level (not Criminal Law, Human Rights, etc.) . I am from Belarus.
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TiGGer Joined: 11 May 2007 Posts: 104	LLM In Germany Thu Nov 13, 2008 06:52 PM Well, it is always rather difficult to find German LLM programmes that are taught in English. Except for Saarland University and Frankfurt University I don't know many more at the moment. Maybe in Munich (however, it's about intellectual property) or maybe some programmes that offer courses joint with other European Universites. Maybe you have a look at the EMLE programme (European Master of Law and Economics) offered by Hamburg, Manchester, Ghent, Rotterdam and many more Universities. Also there might be programmes at Dresden University or at Bucerius Law School Hamburg. You should have a look at those once. When you have found some, don't hesitate to contact me for some information. By the way, I am German :-) Good luck!
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Scholarship Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 70	LLM In Germany Thu Nov 13, 2008 09:00 PM Bucerius Law School is a goog option. It is the best Law School of Germany.
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TiGGer Joined: 11 May 2007 Posts: 104	LLM In Germany Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:41 PM Bucerius Law School is a goog option. It is the best Law School of Germany. Arguable...certainly the most expensive one and yes, good results in the 1. State Exam. But I think you cannot really compare it to the other Unis as it has an entirely different structure. It depends what you expect from a University (or Law School) and what you are willing to do for it and also pay for it.
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Scholarship Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 70	LLM In Germany Sun Nov 16, 2008 08:14 PM Of course, it is the only private Law School of Germany. It has as donors the best law firms and companies of the world, which whom have also internships agreement. So it seems that the job prospective is good. On the other hand has good results in the 1. State Exam and it is often first in rankings. What more do you expecto form a Law School? If I would interested in doing an LLM in Germany is the Law School I would choose. But as you correctly said, it depends on what you are looking for.
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TiGGer Joined: 11 May 2007 Posts: 104	LLM In Germany Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:09 AM Well, yes, I am aware of these facts. But you have to keep 3 things in mind. First of all, you really pay an awful lot of money for all the benefits you've mentioned. Second, if you want to go into the acedemia, BLS is probably not the best place to be as the academic performance (reputation of professory, publications) is rather limited. It prepares for law firms! And third, I know several people who have studied or are studying there. I would say 2/3 of them have changed a lot since they are there. They consider themselves being "elite" and became rather arrogant. Of course, you cannot generalise that, but to my eyes this tendency exists (similar to the EBS for business...). I think really outstanding people don't need this attitude. But no doubt, BLS certainly provides high quality legal education. So, doing an LLM there is definetely a good option.
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sascha_away Joined: 11 Nov 2008 Posts: 44	LLM In Germany Mon Nov 17, 2008 04:04 PM Hi there, in addition to studying at Bucerius Law School: What has not been mentioned yet, but which might be a decisive factor: BLS does not offer a "regular" LL.M. Rather, it offers the so called "MLB", Master of Law AND Business, which is a little bit of both: some law, some business, but (from my impression) not as broad as either an LL.M or an MBA. It's probably great if you intend to work as a legal counsel in a company where some experience in business matters will be very welcome. Go here for more details: www.bucerius.whu.edu/
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RoseRoseRose Joined: 28 Nov 2008 Posts: 6	LLM In Germany Sat Nov 29, 2008 09:33 AM Hey Firstly - I second what that guy said, whatever you do, do NOT study at a Fachhochschule. Similarly, Anglia used to be a polytechnic (the UK equivalent of a Fachhochschule). Both are very low-grade, and to be frank, its crazy that such places offer courses in Law because no-one would ever take you on after graduation. Why are you so set on studying in Germany? Have a look at neighbouring Belgium and Holland. They have some low tuition fees (as low as 1500 Euro in some places) on LLM courses, and all in English. You will find German education to be of the highest standard, but only really if you speak German!
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Ruprecht Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 8	LLM In Germany Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:00 AM I can recommend the new LL.M. Programme "Master of Laws in Corporate Restructuring" at the University of Heidelberg. It is all about legal and business aspects of corporate restructuring at one of the most outstanding law schools in Germany! (www.llm-corp-restruc.de)
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Baby_Luck Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 116	LLM In Germany Wed Feb 18, 2009 02:11 PM Hey Yurist, if you want to study in Germany and can not find a good program taught in English, consider learning German. You can make progress really quickly because your knowledge of Russian/Belorusian and English will help you a lot because I found that many German words sound either like English or Russian words. I strarted stuydying German 5 months ago, and my German went from 0 to reading with a dictionary.. [Edited by Baby_Luck on 18 Feb 2009]
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Scholarship Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 70	LLM In Germany Wed Feb 18, 2009 02:33 PM I would recommend you Bucerius Law School, not only is the best Law School of Germany, but also has a Master of Law and Business in english that it is very good, including intresting internships.
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Baby_Luck Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 116	LLM In Germany Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:27 PM They also offer German classes, which is very nice, BUT studying there is expensive (22,000 eu)... Yurist, did you check schools in Switzerland where they speak English (I belive English is one of the official languages there)?
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eric.k Joined: 24 Jul 2008 Posts: 21	LLM In Germany Fri May 01, 2009 06:26 PM I also was interested in European Law and I absolved the program at Saarland University! I didn't regret it. It is a really great program, very international, academically challenging and has a good reputation in European Law. I do definitely recommend this program! Best regards, Eric
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