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london12

Joined: 17 Jan 2009
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Geneva masters
Sun Jan 18, 2009 02:31 AM
Hello everyone. I am a newbie to this forum. I would like to hear your thoughts on the different masters programs in Geneva.

I have narrowed my choices down to these:

(1) Graduate Institute, Geneva: Master in International Studies: International Law Specialisation

(2) ADH Geneva Academy of international humanitarian law and human rights: Master of Advanced Studies (L.L.M.) in International Humanitarian Law

(3) Geneva Master of Advanced Studies in International Dispute Settlement.

(4) Geneva School of Diplomacy and International Relations: Master of International Relations.

Number (2) and (3) are programs run jointly by the University of Geneva and the Graduate Institute.

Thank you very much chaps, and good night!

[Edited by london12 on 26 Feb 2009]
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petra

Joined: 06 Aug 2007
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Geneva masters
Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:22 AM
Hi Kclawyer,
I am currently enrolled at the ADH- Master of advanced study in International Humanitarian Law and I would definitely recommend it to you. The MIS at the graduate institute is good too but it takes 2 years and you have to be very good in French as 5 of your first semester courses are taught in French. It is very competitive to get into these programes and for the Academy, I know only one in 5 people get accepted. I know many people who were not accepted into he program but I think a 2.1 from Kings College, together with some experience and good recommendations should get you in.
All the best.
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london12

Joined: 17 Jan 2009
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Geneva masters
Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:32 AM
Thanks for the response.

It is IHL that I am particularly interested in and two years at the Graduate Institute is a bit much, but my concern is that the Graduate Institute may in some circles be considered more prestigious. Also I worry that the Academy may be disbanded in the near future and then I will have attended an institution that no longer exists. Whereas it seems the Graduate Institute is well established and the only possibility is that it may merge with the University of Geneva in the future.

Any information on scholarships for any of the Geneva courses?
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petra

Joined: 06 Aug 2007
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Sun Jan 25, 2009 08:36 PM
The Academy is run jointly by the Graduate Institute and the University of Geneva, the degree is awarded by the 2 institutions and not by the Academy. In any case , what makes you think it will be disbanded? Maybe you need to do a little research of the Academy to understand how it works.
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london12

Joined: 17 Jan 2009
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Mon Jan 26, 2009 01:08 PM
As with many such Academy's and courses they often last less than a decade. It is possible that it will be incorporated into one of the two other institutions or the course will change form.

Is the degree awarded by both the Institute and the University? How would this LLM in IHL from the Academy appear on one's CV?

I am not being obtuse; I would like future employers at the English Bar to recognise the prestige of the course I have taken. Everyone in the U.K. is familiar with the Graduate Institute and the University of Geneva, but as the Academy is relatively new not many will have heared of it. So it would be advantageous for me to place "LLM (Graduate Institute, Geneva)" on my CV rather than Academy.
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Cami85


Joined: 03 Dec 2008
Posts: 6
Geneva masters
Thu Feb 05, 2009 06:30 PM
Hello everybody!
I sent my application last week to IHEID and I am really crossing my fingers: I hope to be admitted to LLM in International Studies- Intl Law.

At the same time I still have some questions about this master. Is it very higly considered? Do you think it can give you the good tools and links to enter in an International Organization?

I sent the application because it is set in Geneva which is the earth of I.O, it is a very muticultural city and of course the Master seems to offer a very wide range of courses, more than others...But this is my opinion!Is there some student or alumni that can give an objective answer?

Thank you so much.

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jaspion

Joined: 06 Feb 2009
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Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:00 AM
that appears to be a common thought that started haunting me these last days.. how highly regarded is the IHEID and what about its prestige as in compairison to normal LLM courses offered by well-settled universities.

also KCLawyer, considering you are from England, could you shed some light on why should one go for the IHEID instead of taking e.g. an LLM from LSE.

many thanks!
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london12

Joined: 17 Jan 2009
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Mon Feb 16, 2009 08:42 PM
Well for me personally, I don't think I will gain very much by conducting a masters in London as my undergraduate is from here. Also Geneva would be a much more pleasant place to live in than London.

In terms of prestige, of course LSE, UCL & KCL are well reknowned, but the Graduate Institute appears to have a very good reputation as well. Also, studying in London suggests you are not worthy of Oxford or Cambride, whereas Geneva masters would not give that impression.

Tough call really. LSE probably does have more distinguished academics than Geneva.
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pix

Joined: 18 Feb 2009
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Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:51 PM
Has any one been accepted to the Geneva Master in International Dispute Settlment (MIDS)?

Is out there any alumni from this master?
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piripicchio

Joined: 02 Mar 2009
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Tue Mar 03, 2009 07:00 PM
Has any one been accepted to the Geneva Master in International Dispute Settlment (MIDS)?

Is out there any alumni from this master?



I have, and I am wondering what current students honestly think of the program, being in its first year.

Also, I was curious about the actual ratio between the number of applicants and the number of the selected participants.

Can anyone help?
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prinkz6

Joined: 02 Mar 2009
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Wed Mar 04, 2009 03:52 PM
I have similar concern as urz.... Till when are you to give ur confirmation to the program?
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piripicchio

Joined: 02 Mar 2009
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Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:01 PM
I have similar concern as urz.... Till when are you to give ur confirmation to the program?



march 20th
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Lionel Hutz

Joined: 06 Nov 2007
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Thu Mar 05, 2009 01:26 PM
In the MIDS website you can check the profile of the current students, their CV, and there you can find their emails so you can write them asking what they think about the program. I think its a very good program and, for sure, is or will be the best in this field.
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yaiza242

Joined: 14 Jan 2008
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Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:14 PM
Yes Piripicchio, I reckon this is going to be the best overall program because Geneva would offer you lots of opportunities...
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prinkz6

Joined: 02 Mar 2009
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Fri Mar 06, 2009 01:36 PM
I blve the sucess of an institution deppends on two factors: 1) faculty and 2) how the institution offers u placements or how well it places u in thecareer front from the start at word go?

The MIDS faculty seems excellent but m still to hear about the warmth it has recieved as a great program from recruiters around d the globe or the placements provided by the institute and geneva law school if any

It would b a pleasure to know what u guys think or may have heard any info regarding the same

[Edited by prinkz6 on 06 Mar 2009]
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Maia21

Joined: 25 Nov 2008
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Tue Mar 10, 2009 06:20 PM
Hey there,

is there anyone admitted to 2009/10 Masters program in international humanitarian law? :)

[Edited by Maia21 on 10 Mar 2009]
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SanZo

Joined: 10 Mar 2009
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Wed Mar 11, 2009 07:19 AM
Hello everyone! I have been admitted to the IHL master programme. But I think that I still have to prove my proficiency in French and I don’t have any DELF certificate or anything else, but have a good passive knowledge of French. Does anybody know how difficult is the French test at the University of Geneva?
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pix

Joined: 18 Feb 2009
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 01:10 AM
For the MIDS, I agree they have great Faculty and that, at leat, the programme involves many of the great players of international arbitration. However, I have two concerns:

1.- Are we all -or at least many, from the posts read- fooly assuming this master will get us a good job in the international arbitration arena? Or is this assumption partially valid?

2.- Is this a good master to get into after getting an LLB and having some work experience? or would it be more useful after having completed a master, LLM or MJur? I read some of the bios of the current students and many already hold an llm or some form of specialized education.

[Edited by pix on 12 Mar 2009]
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hotfix

Joined: 05 Mar 2009
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 08:44 AM
For the MIDS, I agree they have great Faculty and that, at leat, the programme involves many of the great players of international arbitration. However, I have two concerns:

1.- Are we all -or at least many, from the posts read- fooly assuming this master will get us a good job in the international arbitration arena? Or is this assumption partially valid?

2.- Is this a good master to get into after getting an LLB and having some work experience? or would it be more useful after having completed a master, LLM or MJur? I read some of the bios of the current students and many already hold an llm or some form of specialized education.



Hi,

I have been admitted to the MIDS program and I have your same concerns. However you should keep in mind that this program is not limited to "international arbitration" but rather encompasses, more generally, "international dispute resolution". That is, it is still very general in scope and hence apt for a fresh graduate. The fact you saw so many people already with an LLM and experience depends, I think, mostly on that it is one of the costliest programmes in Europe and with very limited financial resources available.
I have no clue as to the chances this program would give us to find a job in the area. I am afraid nobody can tell us for sure, since there are no graduates yet. We can only make assumptions here...
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Nic1746

Joined: 10 Mar 2009
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Sun Mar 15, 2009 07:13 AM
any scholarship here esp for asian people?
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Cami85


Joined: 03 Dec 2008
Posts: 6
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Thu Mar 19, 2009 04:57 PM
Hello everybody,

I have been admitted to the Graduate Institute MIS- Master of International Studies. It is a conditional offer as I have to graduate in July.
Anybody will study/has been admitted @ the Graduate institute?

bye!

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dav86

Joined: 20 Mar 2009
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Sat Mar 21, 2009 06:16 PM
Hey...I applied to the Development Studies program and I still haven't heard back from them. Did you log on to the web site to check your admissions status or did you receive a letter? Where are you from? If I am offered admission, I'd also receive a conditional offer as I will finish my degree in May...I'd love to go to the Institute as well...
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Cami85


Joined: 03 Dec 2008
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Sat Mar 21, 2009 06:25 PM
Hello Dev86,
I am an italian law graduating student and I sent my application on January 29th, just some days before the deadline. I used to check my status on the web site and I saw during these weeks that my documents arrived, that they were evaluating them and finally last wednesday I discovered I got admitted. Then yesterday I got an envelope from the graduate institute with the admission letter and all the documents..I guess it arrived in short time because I live not so far from Geneva:-)
Now I have to complete my admission sending the fee to the University of Geneva, unfortunately I did not get any fellowship but they told me I can ask for it during my first year for my second year. And if I do not get my diploma in July the fee is refundable.
Good luck for your admission! I was also interested in Mdev but then I applied for MIS -international law.

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[Edited by Cami85 on 21 Mar 2009]
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Lionel Hutz

Joined: 06 Nov 2007
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Mon Mar 30, 2009 07:23 PM
I´ll go for the MIDS!
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pix

Joined: 18 Feb 2009
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Thu Apr 02, 2009 01:46 AM
Well Lionel, we might meet soon. I haven't yet made up my mind, but this is actually due to my general unability to make decisions ; )

Just out of curiosity: what made you go for the MIDS?
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