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beautravail

Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 6
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Tue Jul 26, 2005 04:53 PM
To "gur" and your question:
1. If JD students can get a job without passing their BAR Exam, why is it difficult for LLm studnets to get a job (eitehr be it legal associate, para-legal, reasearch -assistant)?????

From what I know - one of the big reasons is this -
"Even where LL.M.s are permitted to participate in on-campus interviews, the timing of this activity is suboptimal; the fall recruiting season occurs before LL.M. students have a record of achievement at their U.S. law schools. Since U.S. employers are accustomed to assessing law students on the basis of their academic achievements, the fact that LL.M. students do not have U.S. law school grades during the fall interviewing season decreases the chances that firms will seriously consider them at that time."

(Please note that I am quoting the author of the article "Winners and Losers in the Globalization of Legal Services: Offshoring the Market for Foreign Lawyers" by Carole Silver)
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lawfool

Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Posts: 9
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Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:07 PM
hey all....

this seems to have become a thread for indian students. thats gr8 coz only we can understand the actual trauma other indians face over admissions. have just joined this site. am a 4th yr student froma reputed college. have still some time to go, but u guys seem to be really experienced. i wanna possibly go in for fall 2007.

since i still have about 2 yrs of law school left, i would love to get some advice from u folks as to what all i should do to make the best of it. i mean, what should i look to get into my cv? my grades arent brilliant. have a few internships, but seriously ppl... help me, i wanna make sure i get it right.

P.S: joey.. r u plannin to do a JD ?
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amolkun

Joined: 08 Aug 2005
Posts: 1
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Tue Aug 09, 2005 07:17 PM
hi
I am Amol from Mumbai and am right now in Georgetown. Will be pursuing my LLM beginning Fall 2005. Nandita you have been a great source of information. I suppose by now you must have appeared for you California Bar Exam. How was it? I am sure you will crack it. From the job search point of view are there any particular courses which you feel will increase my chances of getting a job. What would you say about International Trade combined with intellectual Property? Was there any specific reason you chose to give the Cal Bar instead of the NY Bar?
Anyone else who is willing to answer my questions is welcome to do so.
Nandaita wish you all the best with your job search.
amol
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virtue


Joined: 02 Nov 2005
Posts: 8
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 05:16 AM
Hi Nandita,
i am a trained attirney from india and have a work experience of three years. i am consdering to take the Bar exam of NY or california as i do not need to have JD from the US. leant about the Barbri. is it advisable to head straight to take the bar or one should study LLM before taking the Bar exam in order to get to know about the US law. how much time it takes to prepare for cal bar . for a foreign attorney.no experience in US law. i mean how tough is this? do you know anyone (foreign attorney) who has taken the bar exam without doing LLM here and with the hepl of Barbri. one more question : is it ok to study the barbri books on cal bar of the previous years. like last year or so. or one should always but the new books coz tha patter of exam changes or something lik ethat.

any word from you would be really heplful

thanks
hey..thats great news..i'm surprised actually..I'm an ILS Grdauate too...good for us. Congratulations on getting admiited to Washington University and LSE. ..LSE is definitely a better choice unless u want to be in US. Well the job hunt is going on....but I'm currently focussing on the bar exam as it is very intensive and super hectic..LLM is not enough for u to take the bar...i'm taking the barbri..the bar prep course. The bar exam is really difficult to pass specially for foreigh attorneys..
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lawgirl707

Joined: 13 Nov 2005
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 05:40 AM
not necessarily, virtue - one could do an LLM in a completely unrelated specialty area such as I.P. law and then take the bar - which means there is no subject in the curriculum that will be tested on the bar exam. its all a matter of individual effort, this exam, and since NY and CA are two of the toughest bar exams to pass in the entire U.S., you'll need 8-10 weeks of rigorous studying. bar bri or any other bar prep course definitely helps, because its not just rote memorization or reading/studying the substantive law that matters, you must also be very well conversant with exam taking skills before you attempt this test, or else its a waste of money and time. books from the previous year are o.k. law doesn't change all that much with respect to bar exam syllabus, and if it ever does, the state bar's website will have updates (or your bar prep program will tell you.)

good luck!
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MR

Joined: 26 Dec 2005
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Tue Dec 27, 2005 07:10 PM
Hi Virtue- I dont think you can do the NY Bar with just an Indian LLB- the Bar Rules state that the Bar will decide whether your education qualifies or not for taking the Bar- after you send them your transcipts etc. I know someone who had an Indian and British LLB and really good scores and was told that he'd have to do the 20 additional credits to qualify. Its probably applicable only to very restricted common law jurisdictions and schools.
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sweety123

Joined: 05 Jan 2006
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Fri Jan 06, 2006 07:06 PM
Hi,

I am a law graduate from India presently in the US on a H4 visa. I gather that most ll.m students dont easily find a job here. I would be happy if anyone could tell me what kind of jobs do ll.m students expect? Do they also look for paralegal jobs? Most Paralegal jobs pay about 40-50K. How about doing ll.m and then working as paralegal during the optional trianing period and then convincing your employer to get you a H1 visa?

I feel I am misisng out on something because even with my Indian degree I have had 2 offers in 1 month so far to work as paralegal.

well, I just want to know why ll.m students dont take up jobs as paralegals.
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prateek85

Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 14
LL.M Graduates
Thu Jan 19, 2006 06:04 PM
hello all my indian frends nice to get plenty of knowledge from u all
first of all i wud like to wish u all the best for ur future.
by the way i;m prateek doin 5 yrs integerated law from gurgaon {near delhi} and currently in 4th year,
and planning to go abroad for l.l.m so jst want 2 get assistance from u people for ths as u get it for urself time 2 time.u also can mail me at
prateek85@gmail.com

[Edited 19 Jan 2006 by prateek85]

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