http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620 en Canada - LLM GUIDE Discussion Board Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:41:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#620 Hello, I applied for different LLM programs in North America. Most of them are in the US. However, I applied also for Toronto. But I am wondering, why there is so little written about the Universities in Canada. How are they compared with the Rankings in the US? Wuld Toronto be placed in the top 20 US Law Schools? Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:32:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#648 Hi, Luke I guess universities in Canada are a lot cheaper but not necessarily worse than the american ones. To which universities in Toronto and in Canada did you apply? Which LLM programme? André Mon, 07 Feb 2005 14:40:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#789 Hi André I applied for Toronto, (LLM, "the coursework-intensive format is aimed at law students who wish to specialize in a specific area of law, particularly in one of the Law Faculty's several strengths, or who wish to develop an understanding of North American legal processes and law, or who wish to explore the common law at an advanced level....") On the Message Board for US, Nina gave me the following adress vor more information, I'll check it out! Cheers, Luke www.lawbuzz.ca/ Sun, 06 Mar 2005 10:50:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#1483 as a canadian i can tell you guys that the only law school in canada that comes close to competing with the top american schools (particularly in terms of funding) is the univeristy of toronto. the other top anglophone schools are osgoode hall, mcgill and the university of british columbia - laval and université de montréal if you speak french. tuition and cost of living are a lot cheaper in canada when compared to the states. and the people are better. best of luck people... Sun, 06 Mar 2005 11:14:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#1484 as a canadian i can tell you guys that the only law school in canada that comes close to competing with the top american schools (particularly in terms of funding) is the univeristy of toronto. the other top anglophone schools are osgoode hall, mcgill and the university of british columbia - laval and université de montréal if you speak french. tuition and cost of living are a lot cheaper in canada when compared to the states. and the people are better. best of luck people... Hi international, are you Canadian national yourself or are you an interntional student as your name would suggest? Even after watching Michael Moore's "Bowling for Columbine" I am not convinced that the only "good people" in Northern America live in Canada :-) Mon, 07 Mar 2005 07:47:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#1512 hi michael, i am indeed a canadian national (montreal, qc). the name is supposed to be indicative of where my ambitions lie...not necessarily who/what i am. i agree - "better people" was said tongue in cheek, as they say. i really ought to have added a ;) or a :) to avoid confusion. americans and canadians are both decent people to be sure...if only we could say the same about the barbarians running their country... Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:28:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#1796 I study law in Canada too. Unfortunately there are still some Canadians who tend to critisize everything American, but at they same time they realize they would be nothing without the US. Canada depends on the US economically, militarily, culturally...you name it:) That is why for people from another countries it is just funny. I cannot help laughing listening to Canadians:) However, I really love love and hope to finish my degree soon to get my LL.M in the European Union:) Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:31:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#1797 Yes, talking about Canadian law schools, they have one advantage over American schools: since there are two legal systems in Canada: civil law and common law, many law students have an opportunity to get both. Moreover, it is possible to do them in both English and French- 2 official languages in Canada. If you are not a lazy anglophone who does not speak anything else, but English, you should take this opportunity;) University of Ottawa (www.uottawa.ca) would be a good choice! Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:19:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#1915 There is a great debate raging on lawbuzz.ca about ranking Canadian law schools and the comparison to US schools. One thing to remember is that these students are talking about undergrad law degrees (LLB). The consensus seems to be that top tier Canadian schools are: U of Toronto, McGill and possibly UVic and Osgoode. Keep in mind- UVic's LLM program is very new. Ottawa is also sometimes included in the top tier and is great for civil law and bilingualism. Most think McGill has the best international reputation. There is also great info about specialty programs. Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:57:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#1917 Tier 1 - UVic, Osgoode, UofT, McGill Tier 2 - Ottawa, UBC, Queen's, Dal, UAlberta, Western Tier 3 - UNB, USask, Windsor, Sherbrooke, Montreal, UCalgary, UMan Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:57:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#1918 Best international rep = McGill Best bang for your buck = McGill, UNB Worst bang for your buck = Dal Best for job opportunities in Canada = Toronto Best faculty = Ottawa Best course offerings = Osgoode Best MBA/LLB combo = Osgoode Best internships/extracurricular involvement = Ottawa Most overrated = Toronto Most accomplished students = Toronto Best overall experience = UNB, Dal, UVic Best international exchanges = Ottawa Coolest city = McGill, UBC Best for CLE/LLM = Osgoode Best for Health = Alberta Best for Corporate = Toronto Best for Crim = Queen's Best for Tech = Ottawa Best for Marine = Dal Best for Oil = Calgary Best for IP = Ottawa Best for Human Rights = Ottawa Most mediocre school = Moncton Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:00:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#1919 That is from the law buzz discussion. Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:38:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#2042 Hi, eurobest, I'm from Brasil and I'm thinking about to do a LL.M program at UofT. Do you have any information about that law school? Do you know if the admission process is very competetive? Thanks. That is from the law buzz discussion. Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:20:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#2080 Hi V, I know you addressed your question to eurobest but I thought I might add a few words. The LL.M. program at U of T is very competitive but some believe it is easier for foreign students to gain admission (they pay higher fees and there are fewer applying). I don't agree- I'm just saying you should apply and hope for the best regardless of your GPA, etc. if you really want to go there. One thing to remember, however, is that the LL.M. might not qualify you for practice in Canada or the US if that is your goal. I know a Brazilian LL.M. student who is struggling with this. She is trained in civil law but does not speak french, making her Brazilian qualifications useless here. If you are going back to Brasil or doing international law outside North America then I'm sure the degree could help you. But it's something you might want to check into in greater detail before applying. FYI- there are lots of LLM students from Brasil at University of Ottawa. Not sure what the expat community is like at U of T. Best of luck. Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:23:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#2127 Hi, Nina, Thanks a lot for the tips. The U of T is one of my choices and I believe it the admission process is very competitive. My goal is not pratice law in North America now, but is good to know that. I only want study in Canada or USA and after come back to Brasil. So, do you know something about the LL.M in business law and institutions at UofT? Is it a good course? Thanks again. Bye. Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:37:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#2157 U of T is an excellent school, especially for business. I know quite a few LLB students from there who went to work for top firms on Bay St. (Canadian equivalent of Wall St.). I don't know much about the LLM but I am sure it is top-notch. And Toronto is a great city (but cold of course). Best of luck. Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:43:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#2677 Hi Nina, Would you know of any scholarships (for Canadians) which has a late deadline? I havent been living in Canada for some years now and would appreciate the input! Thanks! Tue, 05 Apr 2005 00:13:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#2708 Sorry- I don't know of any off-hand. My advice would be to try and access your school's database of scholarships before you arrive in September though. It should be online. There are deadlines for large and small awards at all times of the year. Many are in Sept and Oct. It's usually so busy trying to get settled in your courses that the deadlines are easily missed. You should apply for SSHRC and OGS (if studying in Ontario) in September for the 2006-2007 year if you will still be studying then. These are the big $$ awards. Tue, 05 Apr 2005 10:20:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#2732 Thanks Nina. Do you know when the Canadian laws schools start sending out the acceptance letters? I have been told it might be a few more weeks. the wait is torturous... Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:07:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#2776 Hello I am new in here. I have a question of Canadian LLM, then I'd like to add my question. If it is a wrong thread, I appologize. I am also thinking to go to North America to study Law. The problem is Bar digree. I know every states in the Unites States have individual bar exams, and all provinces in Canada doesn't have any bar exams excluding BC. I need Lawyers licence. I have heard that LLM grads can take bar exam in the United States. How is in Canada? if I graduated from Canadian LLM, can I take Lawyers License? If you know, would you tell me? Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:55:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#2818 Vid- I am not sure when they go out. Hang in there... Reiko- You really should check the requirements for the province where you intend to practice. All provinces are different but I think that most DO have bar exams. In Ontario, for instance (if practicing in Toronto or capital city Ottawa), you must attend a 4 month bar admission course and write exams at the end of each module. I think they are changing it but that is how it worked in the past. The exams were not nearly as tough as NY bar exams but still something to consider. Also, the bar admissions courses can be costly. If you do not have an offer from a firm who will pay you to do bar ads (and pay for the course fees) then it is quite an investment. Regarding whether an LLM will qualify you for practice- are you trained in civil law? If so, I think you might be out of luck. Again, check with the provincial law societies. I am not sure how it works for students from common law jurisdictions. I have a friend who had to go to the US for an LLM in order to qualify to practice even though he studied law in England. The website for the Ontario law society is www.lsuc.on.ca. Wed, 06 Apr 2005 07:11:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#2854 Nina, thank you so much. Yes, I am trained in civil law country. Anyway, I will go to check that URL what you gave me. Thu, 07 Apr 2005 00:50:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#2995 Whoops- one other thing I forgot to mention. University of Ottawa and maybe McGill in Montreal have one year programs for civil law grads. I think it's called the National Program. If students in Quebec did a civil law degree, they can go for one more year to qualify as a common law grad. I am not sure if students who study civil law in other countries are eligible. You should try the schools. You might be able to do the one year National Program and maybe qualify for practice without an LLM. Sat, 09 Apr 2005 00:56:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#3233 As a foreign civil lawyer you can't do a one-year common law conversion at McGill or Ottawa. McGill's program is integrated so civil and common law are taught as one. Ottawa's conversion course is only available to students with Canadian civil or common degrees. Unlike some U.S. state jurisdictions (i.e. New York), a Canadian LL.M. doesn't qualify you to sit the Bar. I'd suggest applying to the first-year of an LL.B. and then asking for accreditation thereafter. Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:45:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#4208 How does U ofT and Mcgill compare with NU? Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:19:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#6284 Has anyone out there attempted the Canadian committee of accreditation conversion exams? If so were they difficult? Thanks Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:59:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#6437 I think this is a pretty fair assessment. The real drawback to getting an LL.M. in Canada (if you are Canadian) is the bias in academia in favour of big American and European universities. Some think this may be changing, but academic snobbery is deeply rooted. If you want to be a professor in Canada, go elsewhere. Best international rep = McGill Best bang for your buck = McGill, UNB Worst bang for your buck = Dal Best for job opportunities in Canada = Toronto Best faculty = Ottawa Best course offerings = Osgoode Best MBA/LLB combo = Osgoode Best internships/extracurricular involvement = Ottawa Most overrated = Toronto Most accomplished students = Toronto Best overall experience = UNB, Dal, UVic Best international exchanges = Ottawa Coolest city = McGill, UBC Best for CLE/LLM = Osgoode Best for Health = Alberta Best for Corporate = Toronto Best for Crim = Queen's Best for Tech = Ottawa Best for Marine = Dal Best for Oil = Calgary Best for IP = Ottawa Best for Human Rights = Ottawa Most mediocre school = Moncton Sun, 31 Jul 2005 22:15:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#7047 Most mediocre school = Moncton :-) Good to know! Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:02:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#7922 I am very interested in getting to Law School in Canada. I come from a sub-saharan african country called Cameroon with a billingual culture of French and English like Canada. I hold a law degree(LLB) from the state university of Yaounde,Soa and dying to continue. I am from the English speaking part of my country so my degree was on English Private Law. Canada is the place where i would like to continue my studies or even get into a program worth the while and competitive. Osgoode and Ottawa seem to have interesting LLM ptograms. Another one is McGill Law School which seems billingual in character. I have a perfect mastery of the French language so it can only do good to me.I need to know admission requirements of all sorts including tuition and scholarships. Methods of financing my sutdies and work too are very important to me. I am open for everything Law you could find for me in CANADA. Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:01:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#7927 I need to know admission requirements of all sorts including tuition and scholarships. Methods of financing my sutdies and work too are very important to me. Didn't you find this on the university websites? Most unis do have all necessary information on their website. Sometimes you need to look around a bit, though. Fri, 07 Oct 2005 15:10:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#8024 The uOttawa is centered on the bilingualism. I am definitely enjoying my experience, here. If you have interest for law & technology, then, it is the place to be in Canada. See my other post in: http://www.llm-guide.com/board/7040 Marcelo Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:51:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#8248 UWO has the best exchange opportunities. More than any other school in North America, Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:08:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#49078 Hi to All, I have seen the posts are actually way old but its worth a try....I am an asian and would like to study law in Canada . I am currently in UAE, can you please suggest a good Law school in canada that accepts students from foreign countries. Thank you Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:07:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/620/last#49086 Hello moon river. Try www.law.utoronto.ca. I did the LLM there 05-06 and it was great. There were about 50% canadians and the other half were international students from all over the world. It is one of the best in Canada, together with McGill. Cheers!