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sreekanthcnair Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 6	LLM in Maritime Law Tue Mar 17, 2009 02:44 PM Hai!! I'm Sreekanth, currently pursuing my 8th Semester BA. LL. B (Hons.) degree. I will be completing my law graduation by the March 2010. I wish go for an LL.m after this course. I have a dream of becoming a lawyer specialized in Maritime law (but I'm not sure how good my choice is...) Please guide me as to the best area of specialisation, best place to study(will be of good, if its not too expensive), and the approximate fees.. your replies will be of great use to me. Anticipating your reply, Sreekanth. --- Sree.. (Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears!!)
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Maximus Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Posts: 4	LLM in Maritime Law Tue Mar 17, 2009 05:14 PM Hi srikkanth, If u want to pursue an LL.M. degree in Maritime Law,then the best place for it is Tulane University (U.S). I had applied this year and got a fee waiver of 50%. Their staff are also very co-operative and reply to mails etc. quickly. Regarding your choice of a field, it depends upon your personal interest. However,the scope for maritime practice in India doesn't seem to be too good as compared to other fields such as corporate law.
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sreekanthcnair Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 6	LLM in Maritime Law Tue Mar 17, 2009 05:22 PM Maximus, Thanks a lot dude.. Hei, i don wish to practice in India.I"m ready to practice anywhere, but my preference goes to Europe first... All i need is to be in the filed of law, with a reputation and money. --- Sree.. (Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears!!)
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sreekanthcnair Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 6	LLM in Maritime Law Wed Mar 18, 2009 02:10 PM Please post your suggestions, it will b of great use to me... --- Sree.. (Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears!!)
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Maximus Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Posts: 4	LLM in Maritime Law Wed Mar 18, 2009 02:54 PM I am sorry Srikkanth, I am not aware of the scenario in the U.K. But i do know that Tulane is the best place to study Maritime Law in the U.S. Maybe it is better than in the U.K., but i wouldn't know for sure. As far as employment opportunities are concerned, the U.S.has a better job market than the U.K.. However, maritime law as a field itself is more restricted than others. But if u graduate from Tulane, i think you might have a good chance of landing a Job.
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Tonanini Joined: 08 Apr 2009 Posts: 8	LLM in Maritime Law Thu Apr 09, 2009 05:49 PM Hi Srikkanth...I have been working as a trainee average adjuster firm for 2 years (a profession related to a special branch of maritime law). In UK, UCL, Southampton and University of Wales do offer LLM in maritime law. It is said that UCL and Southampton offer the best maritime law programme. However, from my observation, most people in the shipping industry are mostly from Southampton and then Wales. Usually people with working experience take LLM programmes from these two Uni if they want to further pursue their legal studies (with more from Southampton). Like Maximus said, in US it would be the Uni of Tulane. My experience is that the maritime lawyers in US are mainly deal with pollution and oil leakage......while in UK it would be arbitration, collision, insurance, salvage, etc..... Hope the above helps. Tony
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sreekanthcnair Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 6	LLM in Maritime Law Thu Apr 09, 2009 05:54 PM Thanks a lot dear.. Your info is reely helpful... How about the career opportunity and pay? any idea?? b'coz I'm planning to take an education loan.... --- Sree.. (Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears!!)
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PUCCA Joined: 23 Oct 2008 Posts: 347	LLM in Maritime Law Fri Apr 10, 2009 04:04 AM in the Uk University of Southampton is top of the top. I studied there for a year as a visiting student while I was doing my LLB. I loved my experience and although I was taking LLB course the quality of teaching was simply excellent and the teachers were outstaning. Their facilities and the town in general is very very nice. Lots of things to do, many extracurricular activities. You will sure have a very nice time. And the accommodation is also very good. My room had ensuite facilities and was very big. Good luck with your decision! :) --- Never stop trying to be better
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Tonanini Joined: 08 Apr 2009 Posts: 8	LLM in Maritime Law Fri Apr 10, 2009 04:06 AM I seldom encounter UK maritime lawyers who are from non-EU countries. Maybe there are few, but sure are not many. Or they have sea-going experience for 5 or more years......but I suppose u dont have such working exp. Another route of getting in the industry is to join the P&I Clubs....I dont know whether you know what they are but one day you will know if you study or work in this industry. Generally they are the shipowners' liability insurers formed by the shipowners themselves. It seems that they are more willing to employ ppl from other countries. For you I think you will join the claims side.....and almost all the claims P&I ppl have the title "Claims Executive" regardless of their exp. and qualification (even those former City Firm partners)....so the salary of a claims executive may vary greatly from another. I don't have a precise figure here, perhaps similar as those maritime lawyers. Though I've seen P&I claims executives joined the Clubs as a fresh grad., P&I Claims like employing ppl with exp and legal qualification as they dont like spending time on basic training.......
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sreekanthcnair Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 6	LLM in Maritime Law Fri Apr 10, 2009 04:07 AM Thanks Pucca, Any idea about the placement opportunity and pay scale ( An average) --- Sree.. (Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears!!)
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PUCCA Joined: 23 Oct 2008 Posts: 347	LLM in Maritime Law Sat Apr 11, 2009 07:20 AM Im sorry I have no idea about the pay scale or placement opportunity you may have! but most unis have an excellent career service which can help you choose a good law firm or something else. GOOD LUCK sreekanthcnair --- Never stop trying to be better
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PUCCA Joined: 23 Oct 2008 Posts: 347	LLM in Maritime Law Sat Apr 11, 2009 07:43 AM Hey what about the Institute of Maritime Law of the University of Southampton. maybe you could be part of their staff after you graduate from your LLM in Maritime Law www.iml.soton.ac.uk/aboutus/what_is_iml.html Here is also the Maritime Law Directory where you can find several law firms or companies related to the maritime world. www.marinelawdirectory.com/ And what about this other website. It has several adds looking for shipping lawyers, so you can have an idea of what the maritime market is looking for jobs.trovit.co.uk/jobs/shipping-law-firms Hope this helps you at least a little bit! I tried to do my best! :O) --- Never stop trying to be better
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sreekanthcnair Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 6	LLM in Maritime Law Sat Apr 11, 2009 09:07 AM Pucca, Thanks a lot dear... The every bit of info you are giving is very valuable to me... Since, I'm at zero level now.... Thanks again, Hei, can you suggest me any other stream of specialisation that gives me a job of repute and good pay... --- Sree.. (Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears!!)
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PUCCA Joined: 23 Oct 2008 Posts: 347	LLM in Maritime Law Sun Apr 12, 2009 04:15 AM Many people here seem to choose commercial law/business law because it seems to offer very good jobs and a good pay! --- Never stop trying to be better
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clerkly Joined: 14 Apr 2009 Posts: 2	LLM in Maritime Law Wed Apr 15, 2009 09:57 PM Sreekanthcnair, Just to add a sidekick that may be different than the UK and US-programmes you might wan't to check out the Scandinavian Institute of Maritime Law at the Univesity og Oslo, Norway. www.jus.uio.no/nifs/nifs/english/index.html The programme is to the best of my opinion widely recognized as the best maritime law LLM-programme in Scandinavia. Regarding your questions on choice of field etc. I can say that I work with transportation law on an almost full time basis. In Denmark the field of core practioners are relatively small with the traditional major firms as well as a few smaller boutiques dominating the market. On the owner-side the P&I clubs are handling most matters on behalf of members. I don't have specific knowledge regarding the market in UK or the US. However I would say that the transactions, M&A, financing etc. seems to be better paid than collisions and claims handling. Good luck. [Edited by clerkly on 15 Apr 2009]
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clerkly Joined: 14 Apr 2009 Posts: 2	LLM in Maritime Law Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:02 PM Maximus; Do you know if Tulane offers post grad as well?
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Sailorskt Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 3	LLM in Maritime Law Fri Sep 18, 2009 08:10 PM Hey al i m saurav frm india. Pls guide me options i have with chances of scholarship. I m from maritime industry . A sailing 2nd officer wth licence frm govt of india. Plus graduation degree in nautical science from IGNOU
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Halikaa Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 9	LLM in Maritime Law Tue Sep 29, 2009 02:28 AM Maximus; Do you know if Tulane offers post grad as well? Yes, Tulane offers a doctoral level program in addition to the LLM. I would second Maximus' thoughts on Tulane, and I would add that New Orleans is a great city for school. Tulane's campus is really a city within the city. Regardless, it's a great place to be.
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Halikaa Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 9	LLM in Maritime Law Tue Sep 29, 2009 02:37 AM Thanks Pucca, Any idea about the placement opportunity and pay scale ( An average) I'm not PUCCA, but I can give you a very broad picture of US payscales. On the low end, maritime attorneys are starting around $85,000; on the other end, attorneys will start at $165,000. I'm not including any bonuses within those numbers, nor am I adjusting for additional experience. The truth of the matter is that it truly, truly, truly depends on where you work, your CV, the firm for which you work, and a host of intangibles. In any event, those are generally concrete numbers. On the lower end, you are seeing a smaller firm in a smaller city, while the other side would be a massive firm in a national market. If you want to get a better idea, look at the cities that would require your skills and inquire about firm salaries there. As with everything, there are the exceptions to these generalizations. I am not a career services person. I'm lawyer and a student with a lot of friends in diverse practice areas across the nation. I cannot speak intelligently on salaries abroad. I do, however, hope this helps you. [Edited by Halikaa on 30 Sep 2009]
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