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natalia

Joined: 08 Oct 2005
Posts: 7
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Sun Oct 09, 2005 05:45 AM
Hello to all potential LL.M students!
I am a current LL.M student at the University of Hawaii William S. Richardson Law School, and I love my school! You will never find a school like ours. It is small, and we all know each other! Year around warm weather, breathtaking sceneries, turquoise ocean waves impatiently waiting for surfers, Hawaii’s volcanoes, and amazingly friendly people will make a challenging legal education a real pleasure and an unforgettable, once in a lifetime experience! Our school is a true treasure: we have the best, top-notch faculty, smart and diverse student body, and the best food!
I am interested in Environmental Law. Our Environmental Law program is one of the best in the nation. Hawaii is a very isolated and unique place, and it is a great place to study environmental law. Our studies are not limited to class discussions. Recently, we had a rare opportunity – an exciting field trip to Hawai’i National Wildlife Refuge which is located on the island of Hawaii. Not only did we learn about unique Hawaii’s flora and fauna, native Hawaiian ecosystems, and how the Endangered Species Act works, but we also watched endangered birds, harvested seeds for future forests, and planted 138 endangered trees!
Consider our school, and you will have a unique opportunity to receive a quality education while enjoying a wonderful year in Hawaii!
Aloha,
Natalia.
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dhiraj

Joined: 21 Sep 2005
Posts: 14
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Mon Oct 10, 2005 08:15 AM
Hey there, im impressed with the love you have for your college. Ive finished my BA LLB from India and am plaining to do an LLm in Intellectual Property Law or International Law. Are these subjects available in your college? How expensive is it for the year? What would the costs be for attending the program incl food accomadation and tuition fees?

DHIRAJ
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natalia

Joined: 08 Oct 2005
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 07:36 AM
Our school is very strong in International Law. Our professor is a Harvard Law School graduate. As for Intellectual Property Law, I will ask tomorrow and get back to you.Tuition is almost $25,000, everything is included ( place to live, books, etc.) If you have good grades, you can transfer to a JD program. Apply to our school, and you will not regret. There are many students from your country here studying Engineering.
If you have more questions, feel free to ask.
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natalia

Joined: 08 Oct 2005
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Wed Oct 12, 2005 07:02 AM
Yes, Intellectual Property is offered at our school.
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dhiraj

Joined: 21 Sep 2005
Posts: 14
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Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:54 PM
Hey Natalie,
I have completed my BA LLB a five year law course in India, so that is equivalent to your JD degree. Now i want to apply for an LLm in intellectual property law, is this possible? Are there scholarships or RA/TA available to help me with the funds and it would really help me out if you could let me know the requisits for applying to the LLm course. Thanks
DHIRAJ
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bardiva*

Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Posts: 35
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Thu Oct 13, 2005 02:20 AM
Slow month for the admission dept huh? Damn those quotas.
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natalia

Joined: 08 Oct 2005
Posts: 7
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Thu Oct 13, 2005 06:29 AM
Hi Dhiraj
Please send e-mail with your last questions to our Associate Director for LL.M programs. I told him about you. He will provide you with the detailed info you need.
E-mail: kimurasp@hawaii.edu
Hope to see you among our students soon.
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C.Miller


Joined: 02 Feb 2005
Posts: 278
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Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:03 AM


I'd love to study in Hawaii. Sounds like a dream.

I guess if you've got to do an LL.M (which I do not) then why not do it on a tropical islands?!






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dhiraj

Joined: 21 Sep 2005
Posts: 14
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Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:35 PM
Hey Natalie,

I will surely mail the associate dean for the answers to the questions. I would be greatful if you could answer some of my questions in your capascity as a student. Though the education is comparitively cheap as opposed to the other institutes in the US,

What is the scope for me to find on campus jobs during my tenure as a student?

What are the chances of me landing a job in a mid size or large size firm in hawaii or other parts of the US on completion of my tenure as a student?

Apart from this i guess it will be a lot of fun, i guess!!!!
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natalia

Joined: 08 Oct 2005
Posts: 7
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Sat Oct 15, 2005 08:56 PM
Dear Dhiraj
I will answer your questions on Monday after school. I am studying for my midterm which is on Monday. Talk to you later.
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dhiraj

Joined: 21 Sep 2005
Posts: 14
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Tue Oct 18, 2005 05:49 AM
Hey Natalia,

Guess you are pretty busy huh, with exams ans stuff?? anyway take your time its cool. hope u did good in ur papers. I mailed Mr.Kimura Spencer, but am still to be favoured with a reply from him, i sent the mail to the address you provided. Hope he got it and i hope he replies soon.

Dhiraj
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natalia

Joined: 08 Oct 2005
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 04:16 AM
Hi, Dhiraj How are you? I am done with my midterm. Did you receive Mr. Kimura's e-mail? I believe he answered all your questions. You asked me about on-campus employment - yes, you can work here 20 hours a week.
Natalie
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dhiraj

Joined: 21 Sep 2005
Posts: 14
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 09:04 AM
Great to hear from you Natalia, i hope you maxed your exams. Its cool that i cab get to work for 20hrs a week, but are there jobs aplenty for ppl like me?? I did get the mail from Mr.Kimura, he sounded very positive.
Before i apply though i would like to know, what is the scope like to get a job in Hawaii after completion of the coures. Thanks

DJ
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natalia

Joined: 08 Oct 2005
Posts: 7
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 04:56 AM
I believe you won't have any problems to get a job on-campus. There are many different jobs for students. As for employment opportunities in Hawaii, please ask Mr. Kimura, he knows better. I know one LL.M graduate from China, she currently works here at a law firm. So, I think you will be OK.
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ahuimanu

Joined: 27 Oct 2005
Posts: 1
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 01:31 AM
To the gentleman from India,

If you're seeking some financial assistance may I suggest applying for an East West Center graduate fellowship (www.eastwestcenter.org/).

I was on a full, four year ride a number of years ago and it was the greatest experience of my academic life (pursuing PhD in Political Science).

A degree fellow receives housing, meals, a montly stipend, an office and access to the center's faculty and facilities. They've also have a great financial program if you're married with a family.

I've also had the pleasure of taking a number of law school class back in the mid 90's and it was a great experience. I recall Richardson having a great law of the sea program which does tie into international law/relations. Tried twice to get into the JD program, but that is another story.

Unfortunately, Professor Werner Levi, a world renowned international law scholar just passed away recently (prof emeritus political science, UH Manoa). Not sure if Professor Johan Galtung still teaches there on a visiting basis (intl relations scholar)

The University of Hawaii has gone through a number of changes since I left in the late 90's, but think you'll find the student/faculty diversity and the open, cultural mix of Hawaii to be a easier transition for some one coming from abroad.

Also met a lot of Indian students who were very bright, talented, and appreciated being able to blend into the local culture (I'm a local Hawaiian...we kinda all look the same...brown people).

Hope this helps you!

Aloha
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dhiraj

Joined: 21 Sep 2005
Posts: 14
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:09 AM
ALOHA ahuimanu,
Your input hepled a lot thank you. I went through their site previously also, but unfortunately i am a bit late in applying for the fellowship program. The program requires me to submit my application by the first of Nov. A pre-requsit for the felloship is the TOEFL, which i have enrolled to take on the 2nd of Nov only. so, if you know a way around this hurdle i'm all ears.
Anyway i may require your kind help, as i plan to do a Phd in any related field. so if you can guide me on that, i would be more than happy.

DHIRAJ
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Amit bhandari

Joined: 02 Nov 2005
Posts: 16
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 06:01 PM
Hi there
well I am here in US and have already practiced in India for 6 years. now i am looking forward to do my LL.M..I read that the school does offer IP...how good is that rated...apart from the secenic beauty of hawai..since I c that u really like the place..Hoping to hear from u soon
Amit

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ruchirsinha


Joined: 16 Nov 2005
Posts: 8
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Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:41 AM
hey natalia,
Good to hear all that abt ur college. I wd be interested in business laws LLM. However, as Dhiraj pointed out.. what are the chances of securing a placement in Hawaii, is there a BAR exam and how many law firms are there considering its a very small place.

It doesnt make sense to do the LLM and return back to India, since the LLM per se would not be of much use here as employers look for the institute..and Hawaii sure wont be smthing very impressive.

Therefore, the question is only one - what are the chances of seeking employment post LLM... and approx how much is the starting salary - entry level.

Regards

Ruchir
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Sabine

Joined: 17 Nov 2005
Posts: 6
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Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:28 PM
Hey Natalia

I also dream of doing an LLM in Hawaii. I was wondering if the university there is, besides environmental law, well known for e.g. commercial and economical law. Is there a possibility to do a general LLM?

Cheers!
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rajika

Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Posts: 5
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Fri Dec 30, 2005 06:45 AM
Hi Dhiraj,

Visit this site - www.adb.org/jsp.
You can find a scholarship in USA from that site.

Good Luck & wish you a happy new year.

Rajika.
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IntLaw

Joined: 22 Jun 2005
Posts: 63
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Sat Dec 31, 2005 06:08 PM
Hi Guys...

Natalia, please stop doing this to these unsuspecting lawyers from India. It is one thing to try to sell the school at the education fair but please dont do this at the friendly and informal discussion board....

Guys,
Here is a low down
1) You can not take the bar exam in Hawaii with an LLM degree
2) No law firm would sponsor you for work visa without a bar exam eligibility
3) University of Hawaii does not come anywhere near the top schools in Hawaii

So, my advice is
If at all you want to do an LLM....
1) Do LLM from state which would let you take the bar exam after LLM (i.e. NY, CA etc.)
2) Do it from the best possible law school that you can afford and which admits you.

Cheers, Have a wonderful New Year!

BTW, Natalia is right about Hawaii's natural beauty. It is a very beautiful place. But you can go there for a vacation after you clear the bar and get a nice paying job....

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richardvf

Joined: 25 Feb 2006
Posts: 190
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Sun Feb 26, 2006 05:36 AM
I think the problem foreign lawyers have is the concept that in the United States every state and territory has its own rules regarding what is needed to be licensed as an attorney in that state. I am an attorney in California and Texas. If I want to move to Arizona, I have to determine, based on my legal education and bar admissions, if I am eligible to be an attorney in Arizona. Some states, such as Hawaii, require a J.D. from a US law school to be an attorney. Others do not. Some states, such as New York, will allow foreign attorneys with a U.S. LL.M to take the bar exam. Others do not. Some states, such as Texas, require attorney applicants to be U.S. citizens or permanent residents. Others, such as California, do not. A few states allow correspondence legal education, most do not. For those attorneys thinking of licensure in California, please check the California Bar website at www.calbar.org for information on admission requirements. California allows foreign attorneys to take the bar exam without a US LL.M if the foreign attorney has a certain number of years of common law legal education in his or her home country. Also, even if a foreign attorney manages to get licensed in the U.S., the attorney also needs to be legally entilted to live and work in the U.S. This will require permanant residency status or some type of work visa. Neither is easy to get. To all foreign attorneys who want to study in the US for a LL.M degree, come on over. You will have a great time and get a US law degree. However, you will face many obstacles getting licensed and getting a job. It is not impossible, but very difficult.
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surfsjw3

Joined: 23 Sep 2008
Posts: 1
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Wed Sep 24, 2008 06:13 PM
Hello! I have a general question for anyone willing. I am finishing my undergraduate studies in Florida right now and am in the process of applying to law schools. I worked in Hawaii for about 4 months a few years back and absolutely fell in love with everything about it. I see that the lsat scores range from around 157-161, g.p.a. range is from 3.1-3.7 for undergraduates. Are my figures correct and does anyone have any advice? Wish all of you the best of luck.
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Nic1746

Joined: 10 Mar 2009
Posts: 33
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Wed Mar 11, 2009 04:10 PM
hi. anyone here who is a recipient of the scholarship in the LLM at the U of Hawaii? Is it very competitive? I am from the Philippines and very much interested to get an LLM.
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