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studentbarista

Joined: 06 Jan 2006
Posts: 47
Cambridge LLM
Sat Jan 07, 2006 04:11 PM
Has anyone applied for the Cambridge LLM?

Post here if you have - it'd be interesting to know when anyone hears anything from them, and whether you're a UK/EU Home Student or an International Student.

Me? I'm at ICSL. Anyone else here doing the BVC?
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studentbarista

Joined: 06 Jan 2006
Posts: 47
Cambridge LLM
Thu Jan 12, 2006 05:06 PM
Why hasn't anyone applied for the Cambridge LLM on this board?

Odd.
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anotherstudent

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 32
Cambridge LLM
Fri Jan 13, 2006 05:59 AM
Last year Cambridge offers didn't come out until April. I'm expecting it will be the same this year.
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Yellow

Joined: 01 May 2005
Posts: 136
Cambridge LLM
Fri Jan 13, 2006 09:27 AM
Cambridge offers last year came out between February and June depending on the person.
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Davey_Jones

Joined: 12 Dec 2005
Posts: 4
Cambridge LLM
Fri Jan 13, 2006 06:54 PM
Er.. hello - an LLM at Cambridge costs over 13,000 pound for a domestic student. If you pay that your a mug!
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studentbarista

Joined: 06 Jan 2006
Posts: 47
Cambridge LLM
Fri Jan 13, 2006 07:53 PM
Considering that the BVC costs a similar amount and is much less useful, I think it's a fair price to pay.
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Yellow

Joined: 01 May 2005
Posts: 136
Cambridge LLM
Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:18 PM
£13,000 including living expenses for the year. LSE costs £8000 fees only
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anotherstudent

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 32
Cambridge LLM
Mon Jan 16, 2006 01:52 AM
Hey Yellow, what do you mean "depending on the person"? Do they make offers first to the outstanding people and then later to those that weren't quite so terrific? I was wondering why it'd take so long for them to get back to us given the application was pretty short, esp compared to Ox.
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Obligator

Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Posts: 18
Cambridge LLM
Fri Jan 20, 2006 07:43 AM
Yesterday I got a conditional offer from Cambridge via e-mail. The conditions are to be specified in a letter.
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Rainmaker


Joined: 08 Nov 2005
Posts: 52
Cambridge LLM
Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:01 AM
wow, Obligator!
my congrats! I have never heard of anyone getting an offer in January. It seems that you have outstanding credentials.
Where are u from?
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Yellow

Joined: 01 May 2005
Posts: 136
Cambridge LLM
Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:40 AM
The reason that I heard for people getting offers at different times was that they have so many applications they can't simply lay them out on a table and choose. So they pick a small group first who they think are really really good and then they divide everyone else up by country. I guess it also means that they can compare like with like as qualifications, the likeihood that your lecturers know you well as opposed to not at all etc are largely constant by country.
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Obligator

Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Posts: 18
Cambridge LLM
Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:33 PM
I'm from Germany. It's right that my credentials aren't too bad but I also have to say that I applied rather early.
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Rainmaker


Joined: 08 Nov 2005
Posts: 52
Cambridge LLM
Fri Jan 20, 2006 01:27 PM
early means when? (October, November?)
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imaverick

Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 41
Cambridge LLM
Sat Jan 21, 2006 04:52 AM
has neone else heard from Cambridge?
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menon

Joined: 28 Sep 2005
Posts: 26
Cambridge LLM
Sun Jan 22, 2006 06:19 AM
heyy congrats to the one who made it!!! got a conditional offer frm LSE...w a graduate merit award of 5700 pounds. now i have t respond in 6 weeks...and im still waaiting fr cam. ox to respond!!!big dilemma!!but dun think annnnyone else will want t gimme this much money really!hehe!my ccam application wudve reached them jssst in time fr th deadline...so my wait could go on till april?!?!jesus!
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Nina N.

Joined: 15 Apr 2005
Posts: 19
Cambridge LLM
Sun Jan 22, 2006 03:16 PM
Congratulations for your offer! Don't panic - even though it is not exactly what the universities want you to do, you can always accept LSE's offer and drop it if you get accepted somewhere else.
I don't know if that can give you any guidance, but I was accepted by Cambridge and LSE, but not offered any graduate merit award by LSE. So I guess your chances for Cambridge are good!
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James007

Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Posts: 20
Cambridge LLM
Sun Jan 22, 2006 08:00 PM
Hey Menon, I think Nina is right in what she says above. However, I will add a further point of my own. I would not, if I was you, choose LSE over Cambridge if you get in both. Studying at Cambridge will give you a unique learning experience which few institutions can offer. The dialectical style of teaching is fantastic. I, myself, have been accepted by LSE, but I am waiting for Harvards response before I make my mind up.

Good luck,
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Nina N.

Joined: 15 Apr 2005
Posts: 19
Cambridge LLM
Mon Jan 23, 2006 03:50 PM
Just to add my observations of studying at Cambridge: It certainly isn't bad, but I wouldn't rate it that high. I would especially not rate the dialectical style of teaching as fantastic since in my courses (mainly European law) you don't see much of a dialectical style - it's rather the teacher speaking to the crowd. I don't want to bash Cambridge, I really appreciate my time here, but I just wanted to point out that it depends on your courses to which extent the teaching can be judged as exceptional.
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Yellow

Joined: 01 May 2005
Posts: 136
Cambridge LLM
Mon Jan 23, 2006 04:44 PM
I'm at Cam too and while I love it I think that it is worth noting some of the pitfalls of their system. Firstly unless you want to do EU, Int'l or Commercial law its not really great. Oxford has a better jurisprudence course, there's no IT law taught here and basically no Criminal either. Secondly, don't underestimate the impact of the college system on your life here. It can be beneficial or detrimental to you but it will effect you. Thirdly bear in mind that in ways Cambridge is stuck in the past. If you're really after innovation LSE is probably the place to go. They tend to push the boundaries alot more than Cambridge. Having said that I love it here. I'm really enjoying my college life, I've had opportunities to do things I wouldn't have elsewhere and I've been taught by some phenomenal people. I would totally recommend it to anyone.
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swan

Joined: 23 Jan 2006
Posts: 2
Cambridge LLM
Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:00 AM
Hi Yellow

I have to correct you as to the way offers are organised by the university. I was pretty worried when I read your post that the university first makes offers to the very best candidates and then later to candidates by region. I called the university yesterday and spoke to the law faculty (who were very helpful, by the way). I was told that this year, they have had fewer applications for the LLM than last year (850 as opposed to 1000). However, as members of the faculty were deciding on applications at the same time as they were teaching, they were taking some time to consider them. They are about one third of the way through the applications. They are not considering them in any particular order. Ie, they have not made offers to the very best applications. Rather, they just have them in random piles and have just made offers to the ones they have got to. They have a set list of criteria by which they decide to whom they should make offers, which is why they don't have to consider all applications before making offers and can make them as they go along. So to anyone who hasn't received an offer, rest assured that this does not mean that your application is not one of the best. You were just unlucky enough to end up at the bottom of the pile!
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SR

Joined: 23 Jan 2006
Posts: 5
Cambridge LLM
Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:13 AM
Hi All,

I thought I should add my two cents on this - from what I have gathered Swan is right about the Cambridge admissions procedure. I recieved an offer some days after other friends of mine who applied at roughly the same time. I also know someone who made the same enquiry of the Law Faculty and received a similar response to the one Swan was given. They were also told that someone is sitiing in an office there sending out the emails manually as the approved applications come back from the staff, so there is inevitably a spread in terms of notification times.

Good luck to everyone!
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Rainmaker


Joined: 08 Nov 2005
Posts: 52
Cambridge LLM
Tue Jan 24, 2006 07:33 AM
Swan,
Thanks a lot for your info - it was really helpful.
Any idea when they will finish sending out the notifications?
Since April as stated on their web-site seems to be pretty far away from now, given that they have already started sending out notifications.
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Yellow

Joined: 01 May 2005
Posts: 136
Cambridge LLM
Tue Jan 24, 2006 08:58 AM
All I can say is that's what I was told last year by the faculty and I know of a person told similarly the year before. I have also heard alternative theories too though but not first hand. Its also worth noting that they have changed their date this year so probably their admissions are going to be faster. In any case however they decide best of luck to all of you who have applied.
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swan

Joined: 23 Jan 2006
Posts: 2
Cambridge LLM
Tue Jan 24, 2006 09:11 AM
The method Yellow is talking about for going through applications just isn't logical. I mean, on that theory, they'd have to go through every application to work out which ones are the best. Then they'd go through that select pile thoroughly, and respond to those applicants, before considering the rest. This would take more time than going through all the applications methodically, one by one, not based on merit.
But don't worry, I don't necessarily assume the grad admissions department works on logic : )
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Fallacy


Joined: 23 May 2005
Posts: 15
Cambridge LLM
Tue Jan 24, 2006 07:32 PM
I applied to Ox, Cam, Harv & Yale...
haven't heard anything from even one of them :(
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