http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508 en Cambridge LLM - LLM GUIDE Discussion Board Sat, 07 Jan 2006 18:11:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#9508 Has anyone applied for the Cambridge LLM? Post here if you have - it'd be interesting to know when anyone hears anything from them, and whether you're a UK/EU Home Student or an International Student. Me? I'm at ICSL. Anyone else here doing the BVC? Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:06:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#9653 Why hasn't anyone applied for the Cambridge LLM on this board? Odd. Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:59:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#9664 Last year Cambridge offers didn't come out until April. I'm expecting it will be the same this year. Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:27:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#9670 Cambridge offers last year came out between February and June depending on the person. Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:54:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#9682 Er.. hello - an LLM at Cambridge costs over 13,000 pound for a domestic student. If you pay that your a mug! Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:53:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#9684 Considering that the BVC costs a similar amount and is much less useful, I think it's a fair price to pay. Sat, 14 Jan 2006 01:18:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#9687 £13,000 including living expenses for the year. LSE costs £8000 fees only Mon, 16 Jan 2006 03:52:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#9740 Hey Yellow, what do you mean "depending on the person"? Do they make offers first to the outstanding people and then later to those that weren't quite so terrific? I was wondering why it'd take so long for them to get back to us given the application was pretty short, esp compared to Ox. Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:43:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#9895 Yesterday I got a conditional offer from Cambridge via e-mail. The conditions are to be specified in a letter. Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:01:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#9905 wow, Obligator! my congrats! I have never heard of anyone getting an offer in January. It seems that you have outstanding credentials. Where are u from? Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:40:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#9908 The reason that I heard for people getting offers at different times was that they have so many applications they can't simply lay them out on a table and choose. So they pick a small group first who they think are really really good and then they divide everyone else up by country. I guess it also means that they can compare like with like as qualifications, the likeihood that your lecturers know you well as opposed to not at all etc are largely constant by country. Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:33:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#9911 I'm from Germany. It's right that my credentials aren't too bad but I also have to say that I applied rather early. Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:27:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#9914 early means when? (October, November?) Sat, 21 Jan 2006 06:52:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#9949 has neone else heard from Cambridge? Sun, 22 Jan 2006 08:19:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#9993 heyy congrats to the one who made it!!! got a conditional offer frm LSE...w a graduate merit award of 5700 pounds. now i have t respond in 6 weeks...and im still waaiting fr cam. ox to respond!!!big dilemma!!but dun think annnnyone else will want t gimme this much money really!hehe!my ccam application wudve reached them jssst in time fr th deadline...so my wait could go on till april?!?!jesus! Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:16:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10003 Congratulations for your offer! Don't panic - even though it is not exactly what the universities want you to do, you can always accept LSE's offer and drop it if you get accepted somewhere else. I don't know if that can give you any guidance, but I was accepted by Cambridge and LSE, but not offered any graduate merit award by LSE. So I guess your chances for Cambridge are good! Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:00:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10015 Hey Menon, I think Nina is right in what she says above. However, I will add a further point of my own. I would not, if I was you, choose LSE over Cambridge if you get in both. Studying at Cambridge will give you a unique learning experience which few institutions can offer. The dialectical style of teaching is fantastic. I, myself, have been accepted by LSE, but I am waiting for Harvards response before I make my mind up. Good luck, Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:50:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10073 Just to add my observations of studying at Cambridge: It certainly isn't bad, but I wouldn't rate it that high. I would especially not rate the dialectical style of teaching as fantastic since in my courses (mainly European law) you don't see much of a dialectical style - it's rather the teacher speaking to the crowd. I don't want to bash Cambridge, I really appreciate my time here, but I just wanted to point out that it depends on your courses to which extent the teaching can be judged as exceptional. Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:44:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10082 I'm at Cam too and while I love it I think that it is worth noting some of the pitfalls of their system. Firstly unless you want to do EU, Int'l or Commercial law its not really great. Oxford has a better jurisprudence course, there's no IT law taught here and basically no Criminal either. Secondly, don't underestimate the impact of the college system on your life here. It can be beneficial or detrimental to you but it will effect you. Thirdly bear in mind that in ways Cambridge is stuck in the past. If you're really after innovation LSE is probably the place to go. They tend to push the boundaries alot more than Cambridge. Having said that I love it here. I'm really enjoying my college life, I've had opportunities to do things I wouldn't have elsewhere and I've been taught by some phenomenal people. I would totally recommend it to anyone. Tue, 24 Jan 2006 02:00:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10115 Hi Yellow I have to correct you as to the way offers are organised by the university. I was pretty worried when I read your post that the university first makes offers to the very best candidates and then later to candidates by region. I called the university yesterday and spoke to the law faculty (who were very helpful, by the way). I was told that this year, they have had fewer applications for the LLM than last year (850 as opposed to 1000). However, as members of the faculty were deciding on applications at the same time as they were teaching, they were taking some time to consider them. They are about one third of the way through the applications. They are not considering them in any particular order. Ie, they have not made offers to the very best applications. Rather, they just have them in random piles and have just made offers to the ones they have got to. They have a set list of criteria by which they decide to whom they should make offers, which is why they don't have to consider all applications before making offers and can make them as they go along. So to anyone who hasn't received an offer, rest assured that this does not mean that your application is not one of the best. You were just unlucky enough to end up at the bottom of the pile! Tue, 24 Jan 2006 02:13:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10116 Hi All, I thought I should add my two cents on this - from what I have gathered Swan is right about the Cambridge admissions procedure. I recieved an offer some days after other friends of mine who applied at roughly the same time. I also know someone who made the same enquiry of the Law Faculty and received a similar response to the one Swan was given. They were also told that someone is sitiing in an office there sending out the emails manually as the approved applications come back from the staff, so there is inevitably a spread in terms of notification times. Good luck to everyone! Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:33:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10139 Swan, Thanks a lot for your info - it was really helpful. Any idea when they will finish sending out the notifications? Since April as stated on their web-site seems to be pretty far away from now, given that they have already started sending out notifications. Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:58:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10143 All I can say is that's what I was told last year by the faculty and I know of a person told similarly the year before. I have also heard alternative theories too though but not first hand. Its also worth noting that they have changed their date this year so probably their admissions are going to be faster. In any case however they decide best of luck to all of you who have applied. Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:11:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10145 The method Yellow is talking about for going through applications just isn't logical. I mean, on that theory, they'd have to go through every application to work out which ones are the best. Then they'd go through that select pile thoroughly, and respond to those applicants, before considering the rest. This would take more time than going through all the applications methodically, one by one, not based on merit. But don't worry, I don't necessarily assume the grad admissions department works on logic : ) Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:32:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10172 I applied to Ox, Cam, Harv & Yale... haven't heard anything from even one of them :( Wed, 25 Jan 2006 02:12:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10176 Yup not all that likely to find logic in Cambridge admissions policy. I think however that at that time their decisions were being made on the basis of country. As such they had to divide the applictions up anyway. And if a candidate is really good they should be able to tell at a glance. They should also be able to discard awful applications. Then they still have the bulk of the applications which have to be considered more carefully. I certainly know of someone last year who was told they were waiting to see the decisions of those to whom they had offered places to before they decided whether to issue any more. Also not a pleasant thought. I think that they are trying to improve the system though. Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:12:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10200 I still haven't heard anything from any school..... *frown* Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:19:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10224 Fallacy, Just to help you calm your nerves, do not worry about Oxford, Harvard and Yale - these Univs declare their results only in March (April in oxford's case). Harvard and Yale have NOT even intimated all students that their files are complete (because of the large number of applications received). About Cambridge, keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best! Remember until you dont receive a rejection, you still stand a chance and univs have just started notifying, its still a long (slow and painful) process that we all have to pass through. All the best! Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:21:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10240 Thanks a lot, Nirvana. I am really under some pressure these days. And am quite worried too... Fallacy Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:29:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10241 I am also worried, but what can we do - only wait... althought I really hate it:)) Fri, 27 Jan 2006 02:08:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10265 I'm also very worried. I haven't heard back from any of the universities I applied to, even UCL and LSE, where I was reasonably confident that, having won the university medal in law at a well-recognised and prestigious university, I was guaranteed a spot. Now I'm not feeling confident of anything. Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:03:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10329 Nice photo, Fallacy. Here's a little song about waiting: "Waiting Waiting sucks I am hating Waiting Because it sucks" Add music, have a drink, and wonder if you should have made a back-up plan... Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:37:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10504 really strange that not many people have heard their acceptances from Cambridge as yet! Thu, 02 Feb 2006 14:32:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10519 It seems so. I applied online and all the documents arrived on the 30th of November. Till now I have not heard of any news and am waiting. Has there any other got accepted to Cambridge? Thu, 02 Feb 2006 14:51:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10521 Same here - I still so not grasp their admission system - waht is the criteria to choose the first ones? (since some have been already admitted). I also hope to hear from them in March (basing on the logic that last year they sent out offers mainly in April, whereas the application deadline was 2nd of January) Thu, 02 Feb 2006 23:18:00 +0200 http://www.llm-guide.com/board/9508/last#10561 Unfortunately, the demands of my present job left me sending out applications just before deadlines to most schools, including Oxford, Cambridge, LSE. I'm overseas so the deadlines were probably a bit later than most domestics. I must say I'm impressed with LSE's swift process. My application arrived in December and I received an unconditional offer of acceptance a week ago. Still waiting on the others.