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acp21

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1
J.D in paris
Tue May 30, 2006 01:02 AM
Hello. Sorry Toogie, this is not in response to your question. I am a fourth year english student currently attending Simon Fraser University in western Canada. I'll be done this year, and when i finish, i plan on moving to montreal and doing a french course at a language school for a year or so. I want to attend law school in Paris, and earn a J.D or LL.B or whatever a basic law degree is called in France.

My question is this: Assuming that my LSAT score/grades are competative (about an A/A- cummulativly), and I have a language certificate from a good language school, what are some of the barriers I would face if I applied to one of the law schools in Paris? My main concerns are that my Canadian english degree will be invalid, and that the costs for an international student will be incredibly high. I also wonder what the visa situation is like, and how that process works.

Any advice or direction would certainly be appreciated!

I assume that the majority of people on this discussion board are allready practicing lawyers, so feel free to write me a detailed report outlining my options! I'll send you a cheque!
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M82

Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Posts: 2
J.D in paris
Sun Jun 04, 2006 06:34 PM
Hi Jdilli, I don't really know how many applications the LLM in Assas receives every year, they don't tell us. I only know that we are 20 students in class, from 20 different countries and with very different accademical background. Some are lawyers, some are not (me for ex.). I think they pay attention to your grades in school and to your professional experiences, they want you to be among the best in the studies you did. If you're fluent in French I'm sure you won't have any problem to get in.
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kris

Joined: 15 Mar 2006
Posts: 9
J.D in paris
Thu Jul 06, 2006 03:25 PM
HELP HELP HELP
i need a model motivation letter in french for llm in droit des affaires. it is an emergency .
COULD ANYONE HELP ME PLEASE
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fireblader

Joined: 30 Oct 2005
Posts: 11
J.D in paris
Thu Jul 06, 2006 05:16 PM
HELP HELP HELP
i need a model motivation letter in french for llm in droit des affaires. it is an emergency .
COULD ANYONE HELP ME PLEASE


Dear I don't have such motivation letter in French, but I can give you advices I got from my friend who is expirienced postgraduate student in France. And it works, that's my expierience with his advices :-).

1. You need to show them why do you want to enter their course in general - you are a lawyer and you need for your job more eduction in the field of droit des affaires, it will helps you etc.
2. go subject to subject or just choose several of them and describe who this concrete subjects will help you
3. if you know any of lectures write, that you think that in the field of etc. labour law will really helps you to have opportunity to visit classes of this lecture
4. it's France, so do not forget that you will be able to improve your French
5. of course the strong legal of France, since Code Civil .....

I don't know if this would help you, but I believe it can ....
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fireblader

Joined: 30 Oct 2005
Posts: 11
J.D in paris
Thu Jul 06, 2006 05:17 PM
HELP HELP HELP
i need a model motivation letter in french for llm in droit des affaires. it is an emergency .
COULD ANYONE HELP ME PLEASE


Or write true :-))) nice French girls, a lot of cultural monuments (you need weeks to go through Louver), and the wine is great :-))))
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kris

Joined: 15 Mar 2006
Posts: 9
J.D in paris
Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:06 PM
yeah , these were the first things i thought, but i think they dony work :))))). these are too personal motivation reasons :)))). anyway , thaks a lot for your advices.
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Henrik

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2
J.D in paris
Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:59 PM
for the final conclusion on the "who's better" debate read this monster posting forums.figaro-etudiant.com/view.php?site=figaro&bn… ... pretty interesting, and very entertaining! perso: ....Assas!
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legaldiva

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 4
J.D in paris
Mon Aug 21, 2006 09:31 PM
I am graduating this year, and I am wondering what the average number of years of experience for the admitted students to Assas might average. Any ideas?
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EdP

Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Posts: 10
J.D in paris
Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:18 PM

On the Paris 1 v Paris 2 debate, rather than making emptly statements, here is a list of all rankings I have been able to find on the internet:
www.ulb.ac.be/polytech/smana/NOUV_OB/Observateur.h…
www.smbgrecrutement.com/2_classement/6.html
www.smbgrecrutement.com/2_classement/7.html
www.smbgrecrutement.com/2_classement/11.html
forums.figaro-etudiant.com/view.php?site=figaro&bn…

Paris 2 as come before Paris 1 in every single ranking I have found.

One should be aware that they both can make the same claim at being the "Sorbonne". Historically, the "Sorbonne" was split into 12 different universities in 1968. 3 include the name in their present denomination (Paris 1, 3, and 4), but should not be mistaken with the original institution.
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Alpal

Joined: 18 Mar 2007
Posts: 2
LL.M in paris
Sun Mar 25, 2007 09:07 PM
Hi,

I am a danish law student that would like to follow the LL.M. program in the year 2008/09 at Sorbonne, Paris. Does anyone know how I can improve my chances of being accepted in the program?

Does anyone know if the recommendation letters have to be in french?

Is there in the meantime anything else I can do this year to improve my position, for example take some specific language tests in french (and are some tests more accepted than others)?

Thank You for your help,
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anonymous

Joined: 06 Jul 2007
Posts: 4
LL.M in paris
Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:05 PM
Those debates about which is the best between Assas and Sorbonne are quite frivolous since the reputation of french universities depends on the Master 2, each university excelling in different fields.

For example Assas bank and finances law Master 2 has the best reputation while there is no match in France, and probably Europe to Sorbonne's International law Master 2.

And this leads to have smaller universities excelling in their own field (Paris V, Sceaux, Strasbourg, Dijon...)

Contrarily to what has been written, no serious recruiter will discard an application because it does not contain THE diploma they are looking for.

None of those diplomas gives you a direct access to the Bar A french graduate has to go through the EFB (www.efb-paris.avocat.fr/).

For foreign lawyers already admitted to a foreign bar read
section 99 (UE) and 100 (none UE) of the Décret dated 27 novembre 1991 : www.legifrance.gouv.fr/WAspad/Ajour?nor=JUSX911030…






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trunnie

Joined: 07 Jul 2007
Posts: 3
LL.M in paris
Sun Jul 08, 2007 07:00 PM
As a recent graduate of the LLM at the Sorbonne, I wouldn't wish to comment on the academic element of the course at Assas. What I can comment on however is the administrative element - Assas seem to lack contact with reality, both I and another student applied to Assas early last year, but they were not even prepared to get around to interviewing until September (for a course that was to start in October). At least the Sorbonne had got an offer out by June.

Therefore unless you are prepared to hang on until the very last minute to know if you have been accepted skip Assas. As for the LLM at the Sorbonne, it is useful if you plan on staying in France as the stage/secondment helps you get office based experience which helps trying to find a job.

The Universities here do seem to be in need of M. Sarkozy's reform proposals.
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anonymous

Joined: 06 Jul 2007
Posts: 4
LL.M in paris
Sun Jul 08, 2007 08:01 PM

"Does anyone know if the recommendation letters have to be in french?"

Unlike in the US and UK, the french faculties do not require, and even often dislike recommendation letters.
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trunnie

Joined: 07 Jul 2007
Posts: 3
LL.M in paris
Mon Jul 09, 2007 08:43 PM
If you are talking about the Sorbonne then there is a format for the letter of recommendation that is available on the site (it's not immediately obvious, it appears as you work through the application process). They do not need to be in French for the Sorbonne. I have no idea about Assas. As it's already mid-July then if you have not already applied you may find that you're too late for the Sorbonne for Oct '07, but in time for the slow moving Assas.
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EdP

Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Posts: 10
LL.M in paris
Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:51 PM

Does anyone have feedback on what happened to you after the LLM? What were your experiences employerwise?
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sanndra

Joined: 10 May 2008
Posts: 2
LL.M in paris
Sun May 11, 2008 09:38 AM
Hi everybody,
I'm planning to study LLM in Paris and would like to know what level of french is necessary, or maybe smth changed and there are courses in english (as the last messages here are written last year).
Also I would like to know what criterions are the most important to enter? (good marks, language skils, etc?)

Thanks!

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lia

Joined: 10 May 2008
Posts: 1
LL.M in paris
Sun May 11, 2008 10:36 PM
hello!i am interesting in a llm in paris.when you say that good marks are important, what do you mean?what marks are necessary for sorbonne or Assas?i am from greece and i do not know which is the correspondence between the marks in greece and the marks in france
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sanndra

Joined: 10 May 2008
Posts: 2
LL.M in paris
Mon May 12, 2008 11:20 AM
Actually I don't know what aspects are important to enter in these universities, so I wanted to ask somebody who are studying there. About language as well, because my french is not fluent, and I would like to know is it necessary to pass language test or smth and what level is required. Or maybe there are courses in english?
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laodeshu

Joined: 03 Jun 2008
Posts: 37
LL.M in paris
Wed Jun 04, 2008 08:34 AM
Hi

I am a French student graduated from Paris II, Assas. I don't really know about the grades they're expecting from foreigners applicants. when you are French and apply to a "Master 2" (LLM) they usually require good grades, distinctions, like "with high honors" diplomas.. but work experience can also be considered, i guess.

For the language requirement, I remember foreigners in my class (btw, many foreigner applicants are accepted) had to come to paris some weeks before the master started and take a special French class.

anyways, i'm not of much help here, but if you have specific questions, just ask!
cheers
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