Business and Competition Berlin?


easy_tiger

fly in to Berlin for their weekend block of lectures, and are not 'present' for the rest of the class / semester.


Yeah, that's how I understood it. I actually think the programme even requires you to have one year of professional experience, so they really want students who already have practical experience. As Kangaroo explained, they have permanent staff who are there all year long for you to guide you and stuff, so it seems to be a combination.

I think that sounds quite good and I will probably apply and see whether they accept me or not. What other programmes are you looking at, Xea?

[Edited by easy_tiger on Mar 03, 2017]

[quote]fly in to Berlin for their weekend block of lectures, and are not 'present' for the rest of the class / semester. [/quote]

Yeah, that's how I understood it. I actually think the programme even requires you to have one year of professional experience, so they really want students who already have practical experience. As Kangaroo explained, they have permanent staff who are there all year long for you to guide you and stuff, so it seems to be a combination.

I think that sounds quite good and I will probably apply and see whether they accept me or not. What other programmes are you looking at, Xea?
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MBL-FU

Dear Sir or Madam,
in fact, we do not contact any institutions and ask them to send original documents in favor of our applicants' applications. Neither is there a third party doing so. All required documents have to be submitted (in our case, uploaded) by the applicants themselves. In fact, we are not allowed to consider any documents that are sent to us by email or postal service. Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Kind regards
MBL Programme Management

Dear Sir or Madam,
in fact, we do not contact any institutions and ask them to send original documents in favor of our applicants' applications. Neither is there a third party doing so. All required documents have to be submitted (in our case, uploaded) by the applicants themselves. In fact, we are not allowed to consider any documents that are sent to us by email or postal service. Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Kind regards
MBL Programme Management
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Good afternoon. Thank you so very much for the prompt response to my inquiry. I'll just quickly what my experience has been applying to LLM in Europe. I was admitted to a law school for an LLM program last year, but I wasn't able to attend due to conflict in schedule. So what I had done for that university, I had uploaded my documents via their website, and upon admission, I was told to bring the originals that are sealed with me prior to registration.

Is that the same for you guys? I ask this because two other universities had asked me to send them the originals prior to me flying out.

Again, in the States we have a uniform system where a third party just handles all the paperwork between the universities in question. From my experience with the application process for schools in Europe, there isn't a third party involved and the contact is between the applicant and the university.

Thank you

Barbara

Good afternoon. Thank you so very much for the prompt response to my inquiry. I'll just quickly what my experience has been applying to LLM in Europe. I was admitted to a law school for an LLM program last year, but I wasn't able to attend due to conflict in schedule. So what I had done for that university, I had uploaded my documents via their website, and upon admission, I was told to bring the originals that are sealed with me prior to registration.

Is that the same for you guys? I ask this because two other universities had asked me to send them the originals prior to me flying out.

Again, in the States we have a uniform system where a third party just handles all the paperwork between the universities in question. From my experience with the application process for schools in Europe, there isn't a third party involved and the contact is between the applicant and the university.

Thank you

Barbara
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MBL-FU

Dear Barbara,

you do not need to submit any original documents for your application with us. During the application process, we only require the upload of digital scans of the requested documents. Only if you are admitted to the programme, you will be asked to present original documents (or certified copies therof) for enrolment at the university. These can be presented personally or sent by postal service and will be returned to you once the enrolment has been effected.
Kind regards
MBL Programme Management

Dear Barbara,

you do not need to submit any original documents for your application with us. During the application process, we only require the upload of digital scans of the requested documents. Only if you are admitted to the programme, you will be asked to present original documents (or certified copies therof) for enrolment at the university. These can be presented personally or sent by postal service and will be returned to you once the enrolment has been effected.
Kind regards
MBL Programme Management
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Dear Barbara,

you do not need to submit any original documents for your application with us. During the application process, we only require the upload of digital scans of the requested documents. Only if you are admitted to the programme, you will be asked to present original documents (or certified copies therof) for enrolment at the university. These can be presented personally or sent by postal service and will be returned to you once the enrolment has been effected.
Kind regards
MBL Programme Management



Hi, my question is whether I need to have a prior work experience in order to apply? I have done short internships, however I have still less than 1-year professional experience, thanks!

[quote]Dear Barbara,

you do not need to submit any original documents for your application with us. During the application process, we only require the upload of digital scans of the requested documents. Only if you are admitted to the programme, you will be asked to present original documents (or certified copies therof) for enrolment at the university. These can be presented personally or sent by postal service and will be returned to you once the enrolment has been effected.
Kind regards
MBL Programme Management[/quote]


Hi, my question is whether I need to have a prior work experience in order to apply? I have done short internships, however I have still less than 1-year professional experience, thanks!
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MBL-FU


Hi, my question is whether I need to have a prior work experience in order to apply? I have done short internships, however I have still less than 1-year professional experience, thanks!


Dear oneuponthetime7,
Yes, in order for you to apply we usually require 1 year of work experience. This means that by the time you would start the programme (e.g. in October 2017) you will have worked for 12 months in total (can be for different companies) after your graduation. There's no need to already have the work experience when you apply, it is sufficient if you finish the remainder while awaiting the programme.

I could check with the administration whether any exemptions to this rule are possible?
EDIT: I checked and exemptions might be possible for outstanding candidates, but never below 6 months!

[Edited by MBL-FU on Apr 03, 2017]

[quote]
Hi, my question is whether I need to have a prior work experience in order to apply? I have done short internships, however I have still less than 1-year professional experience, thanks![/quote]

Dear oneuponthetime7,
Yes, in order for you to apply we usually require 1 year of work experience. This means that by the time you would start the programme (e.g. in October 2017) you will have worked for 12 months in total (can be for different companies) after your graduation. There's no need to already have the work experience when you apply, it is sufficient if you finish the remainder while awaiting the programme.

I could check with the administration whether any exemptions to this rule are possible?
EDIT: I checked and exemptions might be possible for outstanding candidates, but never below 6 months!
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Tosinf

Interesting conversations here. I was wondering if the MBL program management can respond to some of my questions. I have put in my application for the program already. I have almost three years experience practicing as a lawyer in Lagos, Nigeria. My questions are:

The most critical point for me is whether the MBL suffices for admission into a Phd program. Given the nature of the program, has there been any MBL alumni who got into a phd program after the MBL.
Then, has there been any candidate from Nigeria or West Africa and can a student from sub-sahara africa easily adapt to the program?

Thank you

Interesting conversations here. I was wondering if the MBL program management can respond to some of my questions. I have put in my application for the program already. I have almost three years experience practicing as a lawyer in Lagos, Nigeria. My questions are:

The most critical point for me is whether the MBL suffices for admission into a Phd program. Given the nature of the program, has there been any MBL alumni who got into a phd program after the MBL.
Then, has there been any candidate from Nigeria or West Africa and can a student from sub-sahara africa easily adapt to the program?

Thank you
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MBL-FU

Dear Tosinf, thank's for getting in touch, I will try my best to answer all of your questions!

Yes, the MBL programme definitely qualifies graduates for a PhD position. In fact, two PhD students obtaining their degree directly here at FU Berlin are graduates of the MBL programme, others have gone to obtain their PhD elsewhere. The programme is well-recognised in this regard.

We did not have students from Nigeria as of yet, though we did have a couple of applicants from Nigeria and we did have students e.g. from Kenya or Egypt. When selecting students we obviously apply the same criteria and standards for all of our students. In the past, this also meant that students from Africa had no problems adapting to the programme. Of course, we introduce all students to EU law, even though some students have an advantage if they come from an EU country. Usually we manage to level out these differences during the first module.

I hope I help you to gain a better idea of the programme?
Best,
MBL-FU Team

Dear Tosinf, thank's for getting in touch, I will try my best to answer all of your questions!

Yes, the MBL programme definitely qualifies graduates for a PhD position. In fact, two PhD students obtaining their degree directly here at FU Berlin are graduates of the MBL programme, others have gone to obtain their PhD elsewhere. The programme is well-recognised in this regard.

We did not have students from Nigeria as of yet, though we did have a couple of applicants from Nigeria and we did have students e.g. from Kenya or Egypt. When selecting students we obviously apply the same criteria and standards for all of our students. In the past, this also meant that students from Africa had no problems adapting to the programme. Of course, we introduce all students to EU law, even though some students have an advantage if they come from an EU country. Usually we manage to level out these differences during the first module.

I hope I help you to gain a better idea of the programme?
Best,
MBL-FU Team
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Tosinf

Thank you for this kind and prompt response, it gives a much better perspective. I now look forward to being offered a place in the program. Eagerly waiting for June to hear the good news.

[Edited by Tosinf on Apr 10, 2017]

Thank you for this kind and prompt response, it gives a much better perspective. I now look forward to being offered a place in the program. Eagerly waiting for June to hear the good news.
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MBL-FU

Glad I could help :-) And I hope we can welcome you soon in Berlin!

Glad I could help :-) And I hope we can welcome you soon in Berlin!
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Tosinf

I really really hope so too.

Glad I could help :-) And I hope we can welcome you soon in Berlin!

I really really hope so too. [quote]Glad I could help :-) And I hope we can welcome you soon in Berlin![/quote]
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Tosinf

Dominik, one more question. I'm bothered that perhaps my CV may not be detailed enough. I simply stated that I have provided legal and regulatory support to businesses and companies both foreign and local in Nigeria. Will it help if I instead give specific examples- detailed nature of transaction and my role etc.?

Glad I could help :-) And I hope we can welcome you soon in Berlin!

Dominik, one more question. I'm bothered that perhaps my CV may not be detailed enough. I simply stated that I have provided legal and regulatory support to businesses and companies both foreign and local in Nigeria. Will it help if I instead give specific examples- detailed nature of transaction and my role etc.? [quote]Glad I could help :-) And I hope we can welcome you soon in Berlin![/quote]
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MBL-FU

Dear Tosinf, If you look for general guidance, have a look at Europass (http://europass.cedefop.europa.eu/documents/curriculum-vitae). When it comes to us, we obviously need a) proof of your work experience and b) have a look at how well your work experience will have prepared you for our programme. So if you think that the clients/cases are relevant to the programme, feel free to select and list these relevant ones. Please be economical, however, we do not have to read 3 pages of relevant mandates. In these instances, it would be better to summarise your clients and give a maximum of three examples. :-)
Best,
Dominik

Dear Tosinf, If you look for general guidance, have a look at Europass (http://europass.cedefop.europa.eu/documents/curriculum-vitae). When it comes to us, we obviously need a) proof of your work experience and b) have a look at how well your work experience will have prepared you for our programme. So if you think that the clients/cases are relevant to the programme, feel free to select and list these relevant ones. Please be economical, however, we do not have to read 3 pages of relevant mandates. In these instances, it would be better to summarise your clients and give a maximum of three examples. :-)
Best,
Dominik
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Tosinf

Thank you

Dear Tosinf, If you look for general guidance, have a look at Europass (http://europass.cedefop.europa.eu/documents/curriculum-vitae). When it comes to us, we obviously need a) proof of your work experience and b) have a look at how well your work experience will have prepared you for our programme. So if you think that the clients/cases are relevant to the programme, feel free to select and list these relevant ones. Please be economical, however, we do not have to read 3 pages of relevant mandates. In these instances, it would be better to summarise your clients and give a maximum of three examples. :-)
Best,
Dominik

Thank you [quote]Dear Tosinf, If you look for general guidance, have a look at Europass (http://europass.cedefop.europa.eu/documents/curriculum-vitae). When it comes to us, we obviously need a) proof of your work experience and b) have a look at how well your work experience will have prepared you for our programme. So if you think that the clients/cases are relevant to the programme, feel free to select and list these relevant ones. Please be economical, however, we do not have to read 3 pages of relevant mandates. In these instances, it would be better to summarise your clients and give a maximum of three examples. :-)
Best,
Dominik[/quote]
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Kangaroo

Hi Kangaroo,

Many thanks, that is a lot of instructors! I never had classes which were always taught by a different lecturer, do you like it (the concept)?
The Tiger ;-)


Yes, Tiger! I find that one's experience at the LLM level is different from undergrad/law school... As a mature student, you crave different things - and having lots of different professionals and professors hit the right spot for me!

[quote]Hi Kangaroo,

Many thanks, that is a lot of instructors! I never had classes which were always taught by a different lecturer, do you like it (the concept)?
The Tiger ;-)[/quote]

Yes, Tiger! I find that one's experience at the LLM level is different from undergrad/law school... As a mature student, you crave different things - and having lots of different professionals and professors hit the right spot for me!
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Wow, this programme was sugggested as one of the best Competition law programmes. I am mainly interested in job perspectives afterwards but your input has been really great, Kangaroo!!!

Wow, this programme was sugggested as one of the best Competition law programmes. I am mainly interested in job perspectives afterwards but your input has been really great, Kangaroo!!!
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MBL-FU

Thought you guys might be interested to learn that Berlin was voted the best student city in Germany, #3 in Europe and #6 worldwide ;-)

https://www.topuniversities.com/city-rankings/2017

Thought you guys might be interested to learn that Berlin was voted the best student city in Germany, #3 in Europe and #6 worldwide ;-)

https://www.topuniversities.com/city-rankings/2017
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Srija R

@Xea @Kangaroo, This is too late of the post comparing your conversations heading back to 2020s. I am got admitted into the FU MBL program for 2024. I am wondering if i have to take it or not, as i hear a lot of controversial debates on the program. I myself am interested in international Business laws, and i also got admitted to Bucerius Law School MBL program which is a lot corporate law oriented. But the reputation of FU is not ignorable as well as the city to live in. Berlin is better compared to Hamburg.



Can you suggest me which one to pick?, considering i would want to end up in an corporate MNCs in Germany or Europe and work as legal counsels for my career.

[Edited by Srija R on May 07, 2024]

@Xea @Kangaroo, This is too late of the post comparing your conversations heading back to 2020s. I am got admitted into the FU MBL program for 2024. I am wondering if i have to take it or not, as i hear a lot of controversial debates on the program. I myself am interested in international Business laws, and i also got admitted to Bucerius Law School MBL program which is a lot corporate law oriented. But the reputation of FU is not ignorable as well as the city to live in. Berlin is better compared to Hamburg. <br>
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Can you suggest me which one to pick?, considering i would want to end up in an corporate MNCs in Germany or Europe and work as legal counsels for my career. <br>
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