Hello :)
I have finished my bachelor programme, and i would like to do LLM. My goal is to work in competition law area (private practise, EC, ...) and i have a few questions:
1. If i want to work in EU competition, do i have to do LLM European competition programme, or can I do for example Law and economics or commercial ( business law)?
2. Which schools/programmes do you think are the best (quality of programme/professors/...)and why? Which do you think are most employable?
-university of Amsterdam (European competition law and regulation)
-University of Maastricht ( EU Law or commercial-corporate law)
- University Lund (European business law)
- University of Stockholm (European Economic law)
- University of Utrecht ( law and economics)
- University Tilburg (business law/ european law)
- University Rotterdam ( commercial law)
-.....
If you have any other suggestions tell me
I am from EU and my tuition fee budget is 4000 eur
Thanks for you help
netherlands, sweden (competition law)
Posted Jan 23, 2016 18:35
I have finished my bachelor programme, and i would like to do LLM. My goal is to work in competition law area (private practise, EC, ...) and i have a few questions:
1. If i want to work in EU competition, do i have to do LLM European competition programme, or can I do for example Law and economics or commercial ( business law)?
2. Which schools/programmes do you think are the best (quality of programme/professors/...)and why? Which do you think are most employable?
-university of Amsterdam (European competition law and regulation)
-University of Maastricht ( EU Law or commercial-corporate law)
- University Lund (European business law)
- University of Stockholm (European Economic law)
- University of Utrecht ( law and economics)
- University Tilburg (business law/ european law)
- University Rotterdam ( commercial law)
-.....
If you have any other suggestions tell me
I am from EU and my tuition fee budget is 4000 eur
Thanks for you help
Posted Jan 24, 2016 00:09
I am also very interested in competition law in europe, and would be extremely glad if someone could suggest sth :)
Posted Feb 01, 2016 15:15
Hey Roki,
Hey Law Student,
I am currently looking at Business Law / Competition Law or Economic Law programmes.
Your budget cap might be a problem which definitely rules out most of London's universities, right? Within the ones you mentioned I had a closer look at Tilburg U and they seem to have a pretty decent programme. I'd also add Leiden to the list, being the oldest and most prestigious Dutch university and they offer the Advanced Studies in European and International Business Law programme.
Another option would be FU Berlin, they are fairly cheap and cover both, competition law and business law. Also they have a few lecturers from the EC.
If you want to work for the EC and you're eligible for a scholarship, the College of Europe seems the place to go, many wandered from there directly to Brussels^^
Not sure which ones are the "most employable", probably depends on the contacts you make during your study and on the focus you chose.
Best,
JJ
Hey Law Student,
I am currently looking at Business Law / Competition Law or Economic Law programmes.
Your budget cap might be a problem which definitely rules out most of London's universities, right? Within the ones you mentioned I had a closer look at Tilburg U and they seem to have a pretty decent programme. I'd also add Leiden to the list, being the oldest and most prestigious Dutch university and they offer the Advanced Studies in European and International Business Law programme.
Another option would be FU Berlin, they are fairly cheap and cover both, competition law and business law. Also they have a few lecturers from the EC.
If you want to work for the EC and you're eligible for a scholarship, the College of Europe seems the place to go, many wandered from there directly to Brussels^^
Not sure which ones are the "most employable", probably depends on the contacts you make during your study and on the focus you chose.
Best,
JJ
Posted Feb 02, 2016 13:31
Thank you for you answer JJA,
I looked at the universities you suggested and there is a money problem with every one them. Leiden Business law programme costs 15000 EUR, FU Berlin costs 9500 (+ I only have 180 ECTS and they require 240 ECTS of bachelor study - or am I wrong?) and i probably don't qualify for scholarship for College of Europe since my GPA is 7.3/10.
I am not sure about Tilburg. I checked all world university rankings and I got the impression that for example Amsterdam and Utrecht are better ( of course I can be mistaken?)
Thanks again :)
I looked at the universities you suggested and there is a money problem with every one them. Leiden Business law programme costs 15000 EUR, FU Berlin costs 9500 (+ I only have 180 ECTS and they require 240 ECTS of bachelor study - or am I wrong?) and i probably don't qualify for scholarship for College of Europe since my GPA is 7.3/10.
I am not sure about Tilburg. I checked all world university rankings and I got the impression that for example Amsterdam and Utrecht are better ( of course I can be mistaken?)
Thanks again :)
Posted Feb 02, 2016 22:20
Thank you for you answer JJA,
I looked at the universities you suggested and there is a money problem with every one them. Leiden Business law programme costs 15000 EUR, FU Berlin costs 9500 (+ I only have 180 ECTS and they require 240 ECTS of bachelor study - or am I wrong?) and i probably don't qualify for scholarship for College of Europe since my GPA is 7.3/10.
I am not sure about Tilburg. I checked all world university rankings and I got the impression that for example Amsterdam and Utrecht are better ( of course I can be mistaken?)
Thanks again :)
I've been accepted in Tilburg and Erasmus (Rotterdam), honestly, I've been trying to investigate in order to decide which one I should choose...and I have no idea. No one seems to know. Rankings seems to be uneven and honestly, I just can't decide. So if you end up finding out anything, please let me know!
BTW, I looked for many programmes, and liked many of your options. I ruled out the Swedish programmes - I didn't wanted to enclose my studies tu "european law" (I'm not european, I'm for Latin america). Then , the "law and economics" program from Utrecht seemed to me like a very "theoric" one (Law and economics is pure theory, which I think would be nice if you want to teach it or as a second degree...)
Right now, I'm leaning towards Rotterdam, just because the program seems to be very practical and more on the commercial side (Tilburg seems to be more on the "financiary" side). Also, I kinda like the idea of living in a bigger city. However, still deciding.
Good Luck!
I looked at the universities you suggested and there is a money problem with every one them. Leiden Business law programme costs 15000 EUR, FU Berlin costs 9500 (+ I only have 180 ECTS and they require 240 ECTS of bachelor study - or am I wrong?) and i probably don't qualify for scholarship for College of Europe since my GPA is 7.3/10.
I am not sure about Tilburg. I checked all world university rankings and I got the impression that for example Amsterdam and Utrecht are better ( of course I can be mistaken?)
Thanks again :)</blockquote>
I've been accepted in Tilburg and Erasmus (Rotterdam), honestly, I've been trying to investigate in order to decide which one I should choose...and I have no idea. No one seems to know. Rankings seems to be uneven and honestly, I just can't decide. So if you end up finding out anything, please let me know!
BTW, I looked for many programmes, and liked many of your options. I ruled out the Swedish programmes - I didn't wanted to enclose my studies tu "european law" (I'm not european, I'm for Latin america). Then , the "law and economics" program from Utrecht seemed to me like a very "theoric" one (Law and economics is pure theory, which I think would be nice if you want to teach it or as a second degree...)
Right now, I'm leaning towards Rotterdam, just because the program seems to be very practical and more on the commercial side (Tilburg seems to be more on the "financiary" side). Also, I kinda like the idea of living in a bigger city. However, still deciding.
Good Luck!
Posted Feb 04, 2016 02:29
Thank you for you answer JJA,
I looked at the universities you suggested and there is a money problem with every one them. Leiden Business law programme costs 15000 EUR, FU Berlin costs 9500 (+ I only have 180 ECTS and they require 240 ECTS of bachelor study - or am I wrong?) and i probably don't qualify for scholarship for College of Europe since my GPA is 7.3/10.
I am not sure about Tilburg. I checked all world university rankings and I got the impression that for example Amsterdam and Utrecht are better ( of course I can be mistaken?)
Thanks again :)
I've been accepted in Tilburg and Erasmus (Rotterdam), honestly, I've been trying to investigate in order to decide which one I should choose...and I have no idea. No one seems to know. Rankings seems to be uneven and honestly, I just can't decide. So if you end up finding out anything, please let me know!
BTW, I looked for many programmes, and liked many of your options. I ruled out the Swedish programmes - I didn't wanted to enclose my studies tu "european law" (I'm not european, I'm for Latin america). Then , the "law and economics" program from Utrecht seemed to me like a very "theoric" one (Law and economics is pure theory, which I think would be nice if you want to teach it or as a second degree...)
Right now, I'm leaning towards Rotterdam, just because the program seems to be very practical and more on the commercial side (Tilburg seems to be more on the "financiary" side). Also, I kinda like the idea of living in a bigger city. However, still deciding.
Good Luck!
Hola mvmarti1, fellow Latin american here.
It seems like although rankings may be a bit deceptive, and from what I can gather also useless for Europe, Tilburg would probably be a better choice over Rottedam. In law it appears to rank ahead and it may be more international. Rotterdam seems to be stronger in the business department not so much on law. Also some europeans friends have told me that Rotterdam is terrible to live in, and that the university may sometimes not be as accessible for foreigners. I have read some horror stories about the accommodations department and the law school but not very abundant to have a fair assessment. Tilburg seems to be up and coming and fairly international. I got into the Business Law LLM and since then they seem to be very hands on and quick to reply.
Nevertheless I chose Leiden ICCL LLM and start this september. I was between Tilburg, utrect and Erasmus as contenders and although I liked Erasmus LLM with the emphasis on law of the sea as I deal with the area in my job, and Tilburg has a very nice programme, I chose Leiden as it felt more right and Utrect did seem more theoric.
Anyway, I think in these things its more of that gut feeling. if you feel like Erasmus may be a good choice I dont see it going bad, moreso if you see yourself practicing in the specialties they offer. Some belgian friends recommended I looked into Maatricht, its a bit older than tilburg, but If i remember correctly, the programme wasnt that appealing for me. Good luck man.
I looked at the universities you suggested and there is a money problem with every one them. Leiden Business law programme costs 15000 EUR, FU Berlin costs 9500 (+ I only have 180 ECTS and they require 240 ECTS of bachelor study - or am I wrong?) and i probably don't qualify for scholarship for College of Europe since my GPA is 7.3/10.
I am not sure about Tilburg. I checked all world university rankings and I got the impression that for example Amsterdam and Utrecht are better ( of course I can be mistaken?)
Thanks again :)</blockquote>
I've been accepted in Tilburg and Erasmus (Rotterdam), honestly, I've been trying to investigate in order to decide which one I should choose...and I have no idea. No one seems to know. Rankings seems to be uneven and honestly, I just can't decide. So if you end up finding out anything, please let me know!
BTW, I looked for many programmes, and liked many of your options. I ruled out the Swedish programmes - I didn't wanted to enclose my studies tu "european law" (I'm not european, I'm for Latin america). Then , the "law and economics" program from Utrecht seemed to me like a very "theoric" one (Law and economics is pure theory, which I think would be nice if you want to teach it or as a second degree...)
Right now, I'm leaning towards Rotterdam, just because the program seems to be very practical and more on the commercial side (Tilburg seems to be more on the "financiary" side). Also, I kinda like the idea of living in a bigger city. However, still deciding.
Good Luck! </blockquote>
Hola mvmarti1, fellow Latin american here.
It seems like although rankings may be a bit deceptive, and from what I can gather also useless for Europe, Tilburg would probably be a better choice over Rottedam. In law it appears to rank ahead and it may be more international. Rotterdam seems to be stronger in the business department not so much on law. Also some europeans friends have told me that Rotterdam is terrible to live in, and that the university may sometimes not be as accessible for foreigners. I have read some horror stories about the accommodations department and the law school but not very abundant to have a fair assessment. Tilburg seems to be up and coming and fairly international. I got into the Business Law LLM and since then they seem to be very hands on and quick to reply.
Nevertheless I chose Leiden ICCL LLM and start this september. I was between Tilburg, utrect and Erasmus as contenders and although I liked Erasmus LLM with the emphasis on law of the sea as I deal with the area in my job, and Tilburg has a very nice programme, I chose Leiden as it felt more right and Utrect did seem more theoric.
Anyway, I think in these things its more of that gut feeling. if you feel like Erasmus may be a good choice I dont see it going bad, moreso if you see yourself practicing in the specialties they offer. Some belgian friends recommended I looked into Maatricht, its a bit older than tilburg, but If i remember correctly, the programme wasnt that appealing for me. Good luck man.
Posted Feb 04, 2016 03:12
Thank you for you answer JJA,
I looked at the universities you suggested and there is a money problem with every one them. Leiden Business law programme costs 15000 EUR, FU Berlin costs 9500 (+ I only have 180 ECTS and they require 240 ECTS of bachelor study - or am I wrong?) and i probably don't qualify for scholarship for College of Europe since my GPA is 7.3/10.
I am not sure about Tilburg. I checked all world university rankings and I got the impression that for example Amsterdam and Utrecht are better ( of course I can be mistaken?)
Thanks again :)
I've been accepted in Tilburg and Erasmus (Rotterdam), honestly, I've been trying to investigate in order to decide which one I should choose...and I have no idea. No one seems to know. Rankings seems to be uneven and honestly, I just can't decide. So if you end up finding out anything, please let me know!
BTW, I looked for many programmes, and liked many of your options. I ruled out the Swedish programmes - I didn't wanted to enclose my studies tu "european law" (I'm not european, I'm for Latin america). Then , the "law and economics" program from Utrecht seemed to me like a very "theoric" one (Law and economics is pure theory, which I think would be nice if you want to teach it or as a second degree...)
Right now, I'm leaning towards Rotterdam, just because the program seems to be very practical and more on the commercial side (Tilburg seems to be more on the "financiary" side). Also, I kinda like the idea of living in a bigger city. However, still deciding.
Good Luck!
Hola mvmarti1, fellow Latin american here.
It seems like although rankings may be a bit deceptive, and from what I can gather also useless for Europe, Tilburg would probably be a better choice over Rottedam. In law it appears to rank ahead and it may be more international. Rotterdam seems to be stronger in the business department not so much on law. Also some europeans friends have told me that Rotterdam is terrible to live in, and that the university may sometimes not be as accessible for foreigners. I have read some horror stories about the accommodations department and the law school but not very abundant to have a fair assessment. Tilburg seems to be up and coming and fairly international. I got into the Business Law LLM and since then they seem to be very hands on and quick to reply.
Nevertheless I chose Leiden ICCL LLM and start this september. I was between Tilburg, utrect and Erasmus as contenders and although I liked Erasmus LLM with the emphasis on law of the sea as I deal with the area in my job, and Tilburg has a very nice programme, I chose Leiden as it felt more right and Utrect did seem more theoric.
Anyway, I think in these things its more of that gut feeling. if you feel like Erasmus may be a good choice I dont see it going bad, moreso if you see yourself practicing in the specialties they offer. Some belgian friends recommended I looked into Maatricht, its a bit older than tilburg, but If i remember correctly, the programme wasnt that appealing for me. Good luck man.
Congrats! Question: did you got awarded by a scholarship in Leiden? The ICCL LLM also caught my attention, however, the tuiton fees!!! 15.000 !
I looked at the universities you suggested and there is a money problem with every one them. Leiden Business law programme costs 15000 EUR, FU Berlin costs 9500 (+ I only have 180 ECTS and they require 240 ECTS of bachelor study - or am I wrong?) and i probably don't qualify for scholarship for College of Europe since my GPA is 7.3/10.
I am not sure about Tilburg. I checked all world university rankings and I got the impression that for example Amsterdam and Utrecht are better ( of course I can be mistaken?)
Thanks again :)</blockquote>
I've been accepted in Tilburg and Erasmus (Rotterdam), honestly, I've been trying to investigate in order to decide which one I should choose...and I have no idea. No one seems to know. Rankings seems to be uneven and honestly, I just can't decide. So if you end up finding out anything, please let me know!
BTW, I looked for many programmes, and liked many of your options. I ruled out the Swedish programmes - I didn't wanted to enclose my studies tu "european law" (I'm not european, I'm for Latin america). Then , the "law and economics" program from Utrecht seemed to me like a very "theoric" one (Law and economics is pure theory, which I think would be nice if you want to teach it or as a second degree...)
Right now, I'm leaning towards Rotterdam, just because the program seems to be very practical and more on the commercial side (Tilburg seems to be more on the "financiary" side). Also, I kinda like the idea of living in a bigger city. However, still deciding.
Good Luck! </blockquote>
Hola mvmarti1, fellow Latin american here.
It seems like although rankings may be a bit deceptive, and from what I can gather also useless for Europe, Tilburg would probably be a better choice over Rottedam. In law it appears to rank ahead and it may be more international. Rotterdam seems to be stronger in the business department not so much on law. Also some europeans friends have told me that Rotterdam is terrible to live in, and that the university may sometimes not be as accessible for foreigners. I have read some horror stories about the accommodations department and the law school but not very abundant to have a fair assessment. Tilburg seems to be up and coming and fairly international. I got into the Business Law LLM and since then they seem to be very hands on and quick to reply.
Nevertheless I chose Leiden ICCL LLM and start this september. I was between Tilburg, utrect and Erasmus as contenders and although I liked Erasmus LLM with the emphasis on law of the sea as I deal with the area in my job, and Tilburg has a very nice programme, I chose Leiden as it felt more right and Utrect did seem more theoric.
Anyway, I think in these things its more of that gut feeling. if you feel like Erasmus may be a good choice I dont see it going bad, moreso if you see yourself practicing in the specialties they offer. Some belgian friends recommended I looked into Maatricht, its a bit older than tilburg, but If i remember correctly, the programme wasnt that appealing for me. Good luck man.</blockquote>
Congrats! Question: did you got awarded by a scholarship in Leiden? The ICCL LLM also caught my attention, however, the tuiton fees!!! 15.000 !
Posted Feb 04, 2016 07:07
Thank you for you answer JJA,
I looked at the universities you suggested and there is a money problem with every one them. Leiden Business law programme costs 15000 EUR, FU Berlin costs 9500 (+ I only have 180 ECTS and they require 240 ECTS of bachelor study - or am I wrong?) and i probably don't qualify for scholarship for College of Europe since my GPA is 7.3/10.
I am not sure about Tilburg. I checked all world university rankings and I got the impression that for example Amsterdam and Utrecht are better ( of course I can be mistaken?)
Thanks again :)
Have you checked out Belgium? Dont remember Ghent programme but KU leuven has an european and international law llm and you can choose some good options. Belgiums masters are subsidized so their tuition is set at 5k euros which is maneagable with your budget and you can get a partial or full waiver. Ghent is the same. Both are good universities as well.
I looked at the universities you suggested and there is a money problem with every one them. Leiden Business law programme costs 15000 EUR, FU Berlin costs 9500 (+ I only have 180 ECTS and they require 240 ECTS of bachelor study - or am I wrong?) and i probably don't qualify for scholarship for College of Europe since my GPA is 7.3/10.
I am not sure about Tilburg. I checked all world university rankings and I got the impression that for example Amsterdam and Utrecht are better ( of course I can be mistaken?)
Thanks again :)</blockquote>
Have you checked out Belgium? Dont remember Ghent programme but KU leuven has an european and international law llm and you can choose some good options. Belgiums masters are subsidized so their tuition is set at 5k euros which is maneagable with your budget and you can get a partial or full waiver. Ghent is the same. Both are good universities as well.
Posted Feb 04, 2016 07:09
Thank you for you answer JJA,
I looked at the universities you suggested and there is a money problem with every one them. Leiden Business law programme costs 15000 EUR, FU Berlin costs 9500 (+ I only have 180 ECTS and they require 240 ECTS of bachelor study - or am I wrong?) and i probably don't qualify for scholarship for College of Europe since my GPA is 7.3/10.
I am not sure about Tilburg. I checked all world university rankings and I got the impression that for example Amsterdam and Utrecht are better ( of course I can be mistaken?)
Thanks again :)
I've been accepted in Tilburg and Erasmus (Rotterdam), honestly, I've been trying to investigate in order to decide which one I should choose...and I have no idea. No one seems to know. Rankings seems to be uneven and honestly, I just can't decide. So if you end up finding out anything, please let me know!
BTW, I looked for many programmes, and liked many of your options. I ruled out the Swedish programmes - I didn't wanted to enclose my studies tu "european law" (I'm not european, I'm for Latin america). Then , the "law and economics" program from Utrecht seemed to me like a very "theoric" one (Law and economics is pure theory, which I think would be nice if you want to teach it or as a second degree...)
Right now, I'm leaning towards Rotterdam, just because the program seems to be very practical and more on the commercial side (Tilburg seems to be more on the "financiary" side). Also, I kinda like the idea of living in a bigger city. However, still deciding.
Good Luck!
Hola mvmarti1, fellow Latin american here.
It seems like although rankings may be a bit deceptive, and from what I can gather also useless for Europe, Tilburg would probably be a better choice over Rottedam. In law it appears to rank ahead and it may be more international. Rotterdam seems to be stronger in the business department not so much on law. Also some europeans friends have told me that Rotterdam is terrible to live in, and that the university may sometimes not be as accessible for foreigners. I have read some horror stories about the accommodations department and the law school but not very abundant to have a fair assessment. Tilburg seems to be up and coming and fairly international. I got into the Business Law LLM and since then they seem to be very hands on and quick to reply.
Nevertheless I chose Leiden ICCL LLM and start this september. I was between Tilburg, utrect and Erasmus as contenders and although I liked Erasmus LLM with the emphasis on law of the sea as I deal with the area in my job, and Tilburg has a very nice programme, I chose Leiden as it felt more right and Utrect did seem more theoric.
Anyway, I think in these things its more of that gut feeling. if you feel like Erasmus may be a good choice I dont see it going bad, moreso if you see yourself practicing in the specialties they offer. Some belgian friends recommended I looked into Maatricht, its a bit older than tilburg, but If i remember correctly, the programme wasnt that appealing for me. Good luck man.
Congrats! Question: did you got awarded by a scholarship in Leiden? The ICCL LLM also caught my attention, however, the tuiton fees!!! 15.000 !
Going with own funds and a small loan.
I looked at the universities you suggested and there is a money problem with every one them. Leiden Business law programme costs 15000 EUR, FU Berlin costs 9500 (+ I only have 180 ECTS and they require 240 ECTS of bachelor study - or am I wrong?) and i probably don't qualify for scholarship for College of Europe since my GPA is 7.3/10.
I am not sure about Tilburg. I checked all world university rankings and I got the impression that for example Amsterdam and Utrecht are better ( of course I can be mistaken?)
Thanks again :)</blockquote>
I've been accepted in Tilburg and Erasmus (Rotterdam), honestly, I've been trying to investigate in order to decide which one I should choose...and I have no idea. No one seems to know. Rankings seems to be uneven and honestly, I just can't decide. So if you end up finding out anything, please let me know!
BTW, I looked for many programmes, and liked many of your options. I ruled out the Swedish programmes - I didn't wanted to enclose my studies tu "european law" (I'm not european, I'm for Latin america). Then , the "law and economics" program from Utrecht seemed to me like a very "theoric" one (Law and economics is pure theory, which I think would be nice if you want to teach it or as a second degree...)
Right now, I'm leaning towards Rotterdam, just because the program seems to be very practical and more on the commercial side (Tilburg seems to be more on the "financiary" side). Also, I kinda like the idea of living in a bigger city. However, still deciding.
Good Luck! </blockquote>
Hola mvmarti1, fellow Latin american here.
It seems like although rankings may be a bit deceptive, and from what I can gather also useless for Europe, Tilburg would probably be a better choice over Rottedam. In law it appears to rank ahead and it may be more international. Rotterdam seems to be stronger in the business department not so much on law. Also some europeans friends have told me that Rotterdam is terrible to live in, and that the university may sometimes not be as accessible for foreigners. I have read some horror stories about the accommodations department and the law school but not very abundant to have a fair assessment. Tilburg seems to be up and coming and fairly international. I got into the Business Law LLM and since then they seem to be very hands on and quick to reply.
Nevertheless I chose Leiden ICCL LLM and start this september. I was between Tilburg, utrect and Erasmus as contenders and although I liked Erasmus LLM with the emphasis on law of the sea as I deal with the area in my job, and Tilburg has a very nice programme, I chose Leiden as it felt more right and Utrect did seem more theoric.
Anyway, I think in these things its more of that gut feeling. if you feel like Erasmus may be a good choice I dont see it going bad, moreso if you see yourself practicing in the specialties they offer. Some belgian friends recommended I looked into Maatricht, its a bit older than tilburg, but If i remember correctly, the programme wasnt that appealing for me. Good luck man.</blockquote>
Congrats! Question: did you got awarded by a scholarship in Leiden? The ICCL LLM also caught my attention, however, the tuiton fees!!! 15.000 ! </blockquote>
Going with own funds and a small loan.
Posted Feb 04, 2016 12:31
i really liked KU Leuven and also Ghent :) Do you maybe know who qualifies for partial tuition fee waiver ?
Posted Feb 05, 2016 17:19
i really liked KU Leuven and also Ghent :) Do you maybe know who qualifies for partial tuition fee waiver ?
I believe its merit based, highly dependent on academics. There should be more information on their respective webpages.
I believe its merit based, highly dependent on academics. There should be more information on their respective webpages.
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