@Wavshrdr: What you have mentioned in your post has been discussed quite a few times and I do concur with your opinion/information on the job prospects in the US after an LLM.
The market is not promising to say the least and that is why I am also looking at the National University of Singapore since the Asia-Pacific region is slightly more lively than the US.
At the end of the day each one of us will need to crystallize our thoughts, identify our objectives and choose the best possible course which would enable us to achieve our goals.
Georgetown - Housing, Health plan, tuition
Posted Apr 13, 2015 15:55
The market is not promising to say the least and that is why I am also looking at the National University of Singapore since the Asia-Pacific region is slightly more lively than the US.
At the end of the day each one of us will need to crystallize our thoughts, identify our objectives and choose the best possible course which would enable us to achieve our goals.
Posted Apr 13, 2015 20:33
@stwer90: Congratulations to both of us! Arbitration is an excelent choice.
I am so glad to hear about the "community" since this is the reason why I chose Georgetown in the first place. I don`t expect to have too many courses since I also want to occupy my time with lectures, seminars, and studying (of course). However, I do believe that it will be better (in my case) to use the summer experience to adjust to the common law system, since my background is from civil law. I also want to get to know the my colleagues and the place without the fall pressure. Since you already live in DC and work in the field, the summer course might not be as useful.
Regarding Gewirtz, it is my intention to stay there in the summer. Do you know if I can get an apartment just to myself? However, I confess I am concerned about having a roomate with different schedule, habits, goals, etc. What if I want to study or sleep and my roomate intends to have a different lifestyle? A studio would be great, but I heard that Universities housing are better choices because you don`t have to worry about furniture, internet, water and electricity bills, etc. Plus they have other facilities such as laundry, gym, etc. Where do you live in DC? Bethesda was highly recommended, but they said it can be expensive. I am also concerned about how far the studios are from Georgetown. I don't mind walking in the summer, but I am concerned about how cold it can be in the winter. Usually, how much does it cost to rent a studio?
Your comment was VERY helpful. Thank you!
There are various living options on the GT website you can check out, I believe they have single room with shared bath, 2-people occupancy and 3-people occupancy. I am not 100% sure though. Obviously, prices vary depending on the option and decrease depending on how many people live in an apartment.
I expect GT to pair LLM students in their housing allocation, which means that if you share the room with someone it will likely be with another LLM student. In any case, I am pretty confident that any student in Georgetown (J.D. or LL.M) is driven enough to have an adequate lifestyle to succeeding in his/her studies and respect those who want the same. People tend to study in libraries if they want quiet and party out of their room if they want to party. It all goes down to a trade-off between spending that extra money to have a studio to yourself or risking to have a bad roommate.
Most apartment buildings have gyms, laundries and facilities included in your rent (internet excluded). Furniture can be annoying, personally I rent it out for 99/month. I live in Foggy Bottom because that's close to where I work and I believe that it is more expensive than apartments in the GT area, which is closer to the cheaper part of the city. I would say that studios vary between 1300 and 1600 if you want something downtown to be decent but not over the top.
I am so glad to hear about the "community" since this is the reason why I chose Georgetown in the first place. I don`t expect to have too many courses since I also want to occupy my time with lectures, seminars, and studying (of course). However, I do believe that it will be better (in my case) to use the summer experience to adjust to the common law system, since my background is from civil law. I also want to get to know the my colleagues and the place without the fall pressure. Since you already live in DC and work in the field, the summer course might not be as useful.
Regarding Gewirtz, it is my intention to stay there in the summer. Do you know if I can get an apartment just to myself? However, I confess I am concerned about having a roomate with different schedule, habits, goals, etc. What if I want to study or sleep and my roomate intends to have a different lifestyle? A studio would be great, but I heard that Universities housing are better choices because you don`t have to worry about furniture, internet, water and electricity bills, etc. Plus they have other facilities such as laundry, gym, etc. Where do you live in DC? Bethesda was highly recommended, but they said it can be expensive. I am also concerned about how far the studios are from Georgetown. I don't mind walking in the summer, but I am concerned about how cold it can be in the winter. Usually, how much does it cost to rent a studio?
Your comment was VERY helpful. Thank you!</blockquote>
There are various living options on the GT website you can check out, I believe they have single room with shared bath, 2-people occupancy and 3-people occupancy. I am not 100% sure though. Obviously, prices vary depending on the option and decrease depending on how many people live in an apartment.
I expect GT to pair LLM students in their housing allocation, which means that if you share the room with someone it will likely be with another LLM student. In any case, I am pretty confident that any student in Georgetown (J.D. or LL.M) is driven enough to have an adequate lifestyle to succeeding in his/her studies and respect those who want the same. People tend to study in libraries if they want quiet and party out of their room if they want to party. It all goes down to a trade-off between spending that extra money to have a studio to yourself or risking to have a bad roommate.
Most apartment buildings have gyms, laundries and facilities included in your rent (internet excluded). Furniture can be annoying, personally I rent it out for 99/month. I live in Foggy Bottom because that's close to where I work and I believe that it is more expensive than apartments in the GT area, which is closer to the cheaper part of the city. I would say that studios vary between 1300 and 1600 if you want something downtown to be decent but not over the top.
Posted Apr 14, 2015 09:09
Hi everyone. I'm so happy to have found this thread because I am currently having a nervous breakdown [slight exaggeration, but true :)].
I had already decided on Georgetown's IBEL over UCLA, until I got my acceptance letter into Cornell yesterday. Now, it seems that I'm right back at the beginning and I would really appreciate your opinions.
I am an international student with no work experience (other than internships) because I only graduated from my first/undergraduate degree (LLB) last summer. I guess after grad school, my 'dream job' would be with an international organization like the World Bank or UN (not necessarily in the US, but since they have large offices in DC, this is a plus for GT).
My reasons for considering Cornell:
* Ivy League
* #19 on The Times Higher Education World Ranking
* 1 place up from Georgetown on US News Ranking (#13)
* Small class sizes
CONS
* Weather
* Higher fees
* Location- distance from firms/offices I'm interested in
My reasons for considering GT:
* It's still T14
* Location- great city + close to offices/firms
* The summer experience / NY Bar preparation
* Networking opportunities
CONS
* #173 on The Times Higher Education World Ranking
* Not Ivy League
Sorry this is such a long post but I would be so grateful for any input. Thanks :)
I had already decided on Georgetown's IBEL over UCLA, until I got my acceptance letter into Cornell yesterday. Now, it seems that I'm right back at the beginning and I would really appreciate your opinions.
I am an international student with no work experience (other than internships) because I only graduated from my first/undergraduate degree (LLB) last summer. I guess after grad school, my 'dream job' would be with an international organization like the World Bank or UN (not necessarily in the US, but since they have large offices in DC, this is a plus for GT).
My reasons for considering Cornell:
* Ivy League
* #19 on The Times Higher Education World Ranking
* 1 place up from Georgetown on US News Ranking (#13)
* Small class sizes
CONS
* Weather
* Higher fees
* Location- distance from firms/offices I'm interested in
My reasons for considering GT:
* It's still T14
* Location- great city + close to offices/firms
* The summer experience / NY Bar preparation
* Networking opportunities
CONS
* #173 on The Times Higher Education World Ranking
* Not Ivy League
Sorry this is such a long post but I would be so grateful for any input. Thanks :)
Posted Apr 14, 2015 14:06
I think think that to over analyze the law school rankings can be detrimental. There are basic tiers within the T14 rankings. There is no significant difference between GT and Cornell at this level with respect to ranking of the school. You might want to look more then at the program's prominence. If you are interested in tax then by all means go to GT over Cornell. But it also seems IBEL is very well rated.
As for Cornell's Ivy League heritage, what does that really get you? It isn't Harvard? It is like saying my cousin is a super model and I am somehow related to her. I think that Cornell plays up that heritage a lot but over charges for it. Why does it cost so much more to go to Cornell than Harvard? Boston is a far more expensive place to live so they must pay more to attract good teachers just so they can cover the cost of living there.
I think they charge more because there are a lot of people who get pulled into the Ivy League aspect of it. Since they can't get into Harvard, they can get into Cornell and still say they went to an Ivy League school and then Cornell charges the very dearly for that privilege. I am not saying it is a bad school as it isn't. I just don't think it is even remotely a good value unless you get a very good scholarship offer or you have some other very compelling reason to go there.
How are the schools rated in your home country? If you talk to people in your profession how is their perception of both schools? I will say that GT is a very active area and your networking opportunities will be very good. If you like being at the seat of the US government then you might find this very exciting as well. There are a lot of wonderful museums in that area as well.
GT was one of the schools I ranked very high on my list despite its somewhat lower ranking in the T14. You can't always measure a school purely on its numbers so to speak.
As for Cornell's Ivy League heritage, what does that really get you? It isn't Harvard? It is like saying my cousin is a super model and I am somehow related to her. I think that Cornell plays up that heritage a lot but over charges for it. Why does it cost so much more to go to Cornell than Harvard? Boston is a far more expensive place to live so they must pay more to attract good teachers just so they can cover the cost of living there.
I think they charge more because there are a lot of people who get pulled into the Ivy League aspect of it. Since they can't get into Harvard, they can get into Cornell and still say they went to an Ivy League school and then Cornell charges the very dearly for that privilege. I am not saying it is a bad school as it isn't. I just don't think it is even remotely a good value unless you get a very good scholarship offer or you have some other very compelling reason to go there.
How are the schools rated in your home country? If you talk to people in your profession how is their perception of both schools? I will say that GT is a very active area and your networking opportunities will be very good. If you like being at the seat of the US government then you might find this very exciting as well. There are a lot of wonderful museums in that area as well.
GT was one of the schools I ranked very high on my list despite its somewhat lower ranking in the T14. You can't always measure a school purely on its numbers so to speak.
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